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How do grasshoppers jump?

how do grasshoppers jump? do they have muscles? how do they do it? i was so confused. i had a random thought while writing an email to my friend. i asked him but i dont know that he will know the answer either. i went to ask jeeves and guess what...you have to pay them to answer your questions. what happened to the good ol days. aahh wikipedia you have done it again (not really coz you didnt answer my question) but if anyone has the answer please post it on here...somehow... tah :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.166.240.110 (talk) 11:46, 11 August 2006‎

Yes, they have muscles. Per Grasshopper § Characteristics, "The interior of the thorax houses the muscles that control the wings and legs." Also see the detailed description in Grasshopper § Jumping. Presumably the anonymous user from over a decade ago isn't going to come back for this answer, but I suppose it's a valid point as to whether Orthoptera should go into more detail than "with hindlegs elongated for jumping". --Dan Harkless (talk) 05:12, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Guess it's time to close this 11-year-old thread. I've mentioned muscles along with the hindlegs. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:29, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Wings

when there wings touch they make a realy weird noise. theres a fore wing hidden under there acual wings.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 271.59.171.54 (talk) 1:53, 1 September 2007‎

Orthoptera as food

This section makes blanket generalizations and vague allusions to Biblical tenets. There are no sources cited. A cursory search on the topic reveals there are many differing viewpoints and a complex subject such as this cannot be reduced to two unsourced sentences.67.167.116.8 (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

In Leviticus 11:22 Of them you may eat: the locust of any kind, the bald locust of any kind, the cricket of any kind, and the grasshopper of any kind., so yes the Orthoptera order is considered "clean food". I will add the reference and remove the dispute.```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.247.77.63 (talk) 12:44, 20 December 2008‎

I agree, there are other people who eat them, in South-America for instance. They of course also are used to feed pets. I'm adding this to my TODO list. —PaleoNeonate - 03:54, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Also agreed! It seems like Grasshopper#As_food has lots of pictures and info that could be relevant here. I'm still a fledgling Wikipedian, so I'm not sure if we should just copy some things from there to here, link to it somehow, or do something else entirely, but it does seem like a good place to improve the article. ChristianCanCook (talk) 23:31, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Phylogeny

I feel like the phylogeny should show superfamilies rather than a select number of families and subfamilies for some of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DSWebb (talk • contribs) 17:43, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

• Support: this is repetition (and out of date in places) - better to expand at suborder/superfamily levels. Our objective surely, is to make linkages with families and all the genera - some pages of which I have 'found orphaned' when setting-up superfamily/family pages. Roy Bateman (talk) 08:58, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

The oddly-titled "Phylogenetics" section contains only a cladogram which goes only to superfamily level. If you're referring to the "Classification" section then fine, prune away. It's uncited, and says nothing about phylogeny, unless you suppose that taxonomy reflects ancestry: hm, or perhaps ha. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits and agree - in fact, the whole Classification section can perhaps simply be deleted here, since we have the { {Orthoptera|1} } bar at the bottom and all the superfamilies are also listed in the taxobox. Roy Bateman (talk) 12:13, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

I woulds say combine the classification and phylogeny sections with better referencing, but never remove simply because a nav bar is present. The nav bars should not be relied on and should be deleted before inline prose sections.--Kevmin § 14:15, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

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