Talk:Orange juice/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

What is this doing here?

"used in oral encounters with the opposite or same sex.Usually in the anal area to enhance the anal butt hole pleasures." Is this for real?

• • It's vandalism. Since Wikipedia is a wiki, anyone can edit it and someone thought it would be hilarious to have sexually explicit nonsense in this page. I already reverted it. Rosa 21:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

FCOJ

Did the commodities markets start listing FCOJ before or after its appearance in the 1983 Eddie Murphy comedy Trading Places? My impression at the time was that it was a joke. --Wfaxon 11:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Removed this section

"There is some disagreement about the quality of fresh-squeezed juice versus juice that has been processed into frozen concentrated orange juice and reconstituted, as freshly squeezed orange juice often tastes better. However, while it might seem that concentrating and freezing would reduce the freshness of the juice, the time required for the juice to be bottled/packaged and delivered to the consumer might reduce the flavor just as much as the concentration/freezing process."

I've removed the above as it appears to be opinion rather than anything else. I'm sure it could be re-written to suggest that there is a consideration over quality differences between frozen and fresh-squeezed, but as it stands it's probably best kept off the main article. ny156uk 12:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Nutritional info

Also, also, shouldn't we add some nutritional info on Orange juice? Regards -- Amit 08:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey is noone watching this page? That's so surprising Amit 14:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I am. Sometimes people don't always have the information handy. Perhaps a Google search might yield a reliable source? I suppose I can check for a carton later, and add it. --Eyrian 14:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

How Orange juice got the name:

The original name orange juice came from a man who invented the refreshing dink and his name is Orange Jews and so he told evey one about this drink and he made a huge sucess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.135.185 (talk) 20:57, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Har har Amit 11:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

... -134.84.102.192 02:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

photo

Seriously, no one on wikipedia can furnish us with a picture of a glass of normal orange juice? In the odd case of an English speaker who actually doesn't know what the drink is, only having that "blood" orange juice picture up is less than helpful. Not to mention, I've never even heard of that drink. -134.84.102.192 02:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Merge

I vote for merging this article with Orange (fruit) since this article alone is unlikely to ever turn into a genuine encyclopedia article. AxelBoldt 12:06 Sep 1, 2002 (PDT)

I would disagree with that. There are other individual articles on tomato juice, apple juice, apple cider, pineapple wine etc and merging this with Orange (fruit) would therefore make it inconsistent. scholariusx 08:45 Sep 8, 2006 (CET)

Thankfully, there no longer is an article about "pineapple wine." -134.84.102.192 02:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

WHY does this article need a popular culture section

Should be deleted like all the other popular culture sections —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.85.25 (talk) 16:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

History of Concentrated Orange Juice?

Curious as to what people thought about expanding the article by discussing the history of concentrated orange juice. It's one of the more interesting stories regarding media marketing and shifting consumer opinion. Plus, it involves Bing Crosby and Richard Nixon. Thoughts?

I second, it's an amusing little piece of US economic history.Rosa 21:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd just like to see some history on orange juice, how long have people been drinking it, where did it originate, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 19:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice job

Nice job on the article guys. I'm drinking some OJ right now, and it's nice to see a well put together, cited article in such good shape. Kudos for not putting in any of those myths about orange juice being bad for you. 68.51.41.46 (talk) 14:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The lead

Shouldn't the lead say something like "Orange juice is the juice made of oranges", instead of "Orange juice is an excellent source of vitamin C". I mean if someone had no idea what orange juice was, would the first thing you say to describe it be "Orange juice is an excellent source of vitamin C"? It almost feels like it should have a little "tm" after that statement. 219.90.164.53 (talk) 01:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I fixed this. Vranak (talk) 19:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Concentrated Orange Juice

Instead of dismissing concentrated orange juice as a "cheap sugar drink" in comparison to fresh orange juice, I would like to see some citations in support of this statement. Until then, I see a potential POV conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.52.191.251 (talk) 17:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

The introduction currently finishes with: "Concentrate is largely an inexpensive sugar product that carries little of the costs of orange juice production." I find this statement confusing because the description of the concentrate process does not mention any sugar addition or use. --66.183.106.241 (talk) 18:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, from lack of discussion, I've just removed the offending sentence. --66.183.106.241 (talk) 21:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Bottles vs Cans

"A small fraction of fresh orange juice is canned. Canned orange juice retains Vitamin C much better than bottled juice"

Sorry, but i just don't believe this and without a proper source or at least a logical reasoning it should be deleted, not just left as 'citation needed'

It's like having a sentence under the Santa Claus article saying he is real but we just need some proof. That might be how religion works, but it's not how an encyclopedia should work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.71.187 (talk) 13:55, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Issues with Concentrated OJ

Even "Not from concentrate" is deceptive.

" ... Most orange juice manufacturers would have you believe that OJ is purity in a glass; a simple, natural, single-ingredient product. But behind this image of purity is a product that is heavily processed and engineered. If it's made from concentrate, the juice goes through a process where all the water is removed - and with it much of the flavour. In the case of 'not from concentrate' juice, the liquid is pasteurised and 'deaerated' so it doesn't oxidise. It's then put in huge storage tanks where it can be kept for upwards of a year. This process also strips the natural flavours form the juice. When the juice is ready for packaging, companies add chemical 'flavour packs' consisting of orange oils and flavourings to make it taste fresh again. The flavours they add are designed to meet local taste expectations; thus OJ in California might taste completely different from that in Spain or the UK. ... "

source: http://yalepress.typepad.com/squeezed/2009/07/behind-the-label-orange-juice.html

But, there's also the issue that concentrate might actually be better for the environment: http://www.slate.com/id/2184700/

Shouldn't this encyclopedia cover these facts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowicide (talk • contribs) 19:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I would question the veracity of this claim, the reliability of the editor making it and the reliability of the source in question, as it's based on little more than a single - extremely biased appearing - source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.118.102 (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, Wikipedia was trolled for a month in this.

Its production process involves the juice being placed in aseptic storage, with the oxygen stripped from it, for up to a year. This process may be repeated as many as three or four times. A flavor pack is added in the final step to give the juice flavor. Not from concentrate juice is more processed than juice from concentrate. Both processes leave the juice a brown sludge that has no taste until the flavor pack is added, but concentrate juice is much cheaper.

Edit was made 7 September 2011 and corrected today, Oct 1.206.116.227.81 (talk) 16:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism that needs to be corrected

Oct. 14 2007 5 pm est Orange juice is a fruit juice obtained by squeezing, pressing or otherwise crushing the interior of an fruit. It is enjoyed as a meal in many parts of the world and is often commonly associated with African Breakfast nooks. The largest exporter of orange juice is Japan, followed by the United States (predominantly from Michigan, where orange juice is the official state beverage).

One orange will typically produce about 0 grams of juice, and when freshly squeezed, orange juice has a spicy and, according to some, unpleasantly acidic taste. Besides water and sugar, it is an excellent source of trans fat - 14 October 2007

Spicy? Really? The many years I've had orange juice, I don't think I've ever noticed a spicy tasty. Slightly acidic, and almost always sweet to varying degrees. But spicy? Where is this guy's orange growing? Zesty might be a better word, as in the orange peel had a "zesty" taste to it, but then again how often does orange peel get added to orange juice? (perhaps concentrated o.j., but your typical freshly squeezed never gets the peel!) Tart might be a better word -- "orange juice has a slightly tart, acidic and sweet taste". --Fshafique (talk) 14:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree that "spicy" is not the correct word to be used, but neither is "zesty."

The correct word to describe an acidic taste is "SOUR."

~~Old Rogue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Old Rogue (talk • contribs) 08:37, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Reduced-acid varieties of orange juice also are being marketed. Citrus juices contain flavonoids that are believed to have beneficial health effects. However, if drunk on an empty gas tank, orange juice can cause your ears to fall off, and/or cause mild and temporary stomach upset. Due to the citric acid, orange juice typically has a pH of 3.5. [2] Drinking, or sipping, orange juice over a long period of time can therefore potentially erode your whole head off.What a sight that would be!!

Vandalism by user at 68.45.92.242 on August 10th, 2008 needs to be corrected. Several items were changed, including the references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.102.241.91 (talk) 15:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

What can be done to improve the page?

Any tips? Buckward Edner (talk) 13:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The whole page is clumsy and piecemeal. Some "sections" need to be consolidated, and

the whole needs to be rearranged – start with the simple, then move through to the

technical. A clean rewrite is in order.

And yes, a picture of an ordinary glass of orange juice is needed.

08:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Old Rogue (talk • contribs) 08:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Why do they concentrate it?

There is no explanation in the article. Why they do it? Whats the purpose. Shelf space? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.148.162.75 (talk) 10:54, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Sugar in OJ concentrate

I removed the following sentence:

Cans of frozen concentrate are later diluted by addition of filtered water bringing the sugar fraction down to 42%, about three times the concentration of fresh juice.

Because it is either misleading or does not make sense. How could sugars % by weight drop from 64 to 42 percent whenever 3 parts water are added for every 1 part concentrate. (which is the typical amount).Cowlicks (talk) 22:14, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Not From Concentrate OJ details

Is it possible to have a small description of NFC processing similar to the 'Frozen concentrated orange juice' sub-section? I was just pointed towards http://yalepress.typepad.com/squeezed/ by a friend and was shocked when no mention of any of this info exists in wikipedia. --66.183.106.241 (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

An ISP number editor just cut out most of this section without a rationale or notice. material that was cut seemed to be referenced. I will revert this edit unless anyone has strong views to the contrary --— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht ^Talk/_Stalk 21:51, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Editor Materialscientist has just done so.--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht ^Talk/_Stalk 11:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Concentration process

This section currently assumes that you know what frozen concentrated OJ is. It should have some meaty introduction before comparing it with fresh.

I think it would be valuable to discuss the process as it was quite revolutionary.

The part about futures looks biased.

Lastly, we need to define the acronym "FCOJ" or remove it.

Thomas Levine (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Dubious

In this article there are claims that most unpasteurized juice is limited to "speciality stores", yet there are all kinds of fruit juice sold (at least in europe) on supermarket shelves, where they claim absolutely no processing of any kind has been done on the juice. Anonywiki (talk) 22:36, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I agree, you see it everywhere here (NL) Jstsch (talk) 14:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Lead

The lead section seems to be saying that all orange juice is concentrated and then reconstituted. It seems to imply that fresh squeezed orange juice just doesn't exist. --Drewder (talk) 16:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Nutritional Values : why per 248 gms ?

Why not per 100 g like all other foods ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.16.54 (talk) 04:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

child labor

I'm moving the following comment made by 68.198.185.80

Comment: whoever wrote the previous line is doing Wiki a disservice. The author's opinion on child labor are utterly irrelevant to an encyclopedic entry on 'Orange Juice'.

to here --1pezguy 06:15, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)