Talk:Opisthosporidia

Why Zoosporia?

There are no sources I've seen that say Zoosporia is a taxon, let alone a synonym (or a parent taxon according to this unreferenced taxobox template) of Opisthosporidia. Why does it appear in the taxobox as such? ☽ Snoteleks ☾ 16:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

@ User:Snoteleks: I agree with deletion of Zoosporia. Nowadays mycologists define Fungi not only as True fungi (Eumycota), but include also the basal lineages as Rozellomycota and Aphelidiomycota (see the refs [1], [2]). The taxon or clade Zoosporia (not used nowadays) had the same meaning and so it was a junior synonym to Fungi. (Well, some protistologists insist in narrower definition of the taxon Fungi to keep the opisthosporidian lineages in their area of interest :-), see [3])

• Note 1: The recent position of the clade/kingdom Fungi R.H. Whittaker, Quart. Rev. Biol. 34:220. 1959 (see [4]; syn. Zoosporia) := Nucletmycea (junior synonym Holomycota) − Cristidiscoidea sensu lato (taxon Rotosphaerida[5] with junior synonyms Nucleariae[6], Cristidiscoidia[7] or Cristidiscoidea[8])
• Note 2: The contents of the clade are Rozellomyceta (= Cryptomycota/Rozellida + Microsporidia) + Aphelidiomyceta (Aphelida/Aphelidiomycota) + Eumycota (= Chytridiomyceta (= Neocallimastigomycota + Monoblepharomycota + Caulochytriomycota + Chytridiomycota) + Blastocladiomycota + Sanchytriomycota + Amastigomycota) + few minor basal lineages without oficial description (BCG1, BCG2, GS01) (for taxons with red links or without links see refs [9], [10], for minor basal lineages [11], [12], [13], [14]; see also the taxobox in Fungus)

I would also appreciate to present Opisthosporidia as "Opisthosporidia" in the taxobox because it seems to be a paraphyletic taxon. Petr Karel (talk) 15:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Petr Karel Hey, so just to be sure, the current phylogenetic positions are:

new Fungi	Cristidiscoidea old Fungi Rozellomyceta Aphelidiomyceta Eumycota
(=Holomycota)
	Holozoa

Is this right? This would mean Holomycota is still a clade supported by some mycologists/protistologists? As for the deletion of Zoosporia, I'll try to do it myself, and also fix the Opisthosporidia thing. Thanks for your answer :) ☽ Snoteleks ☾ 16:11, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@ User:Snoteleks: Sorry for late answer, I was offline in my holiday. Small clarification: "old" Fungi = True Fungi (Eumycota), "new" Fungi according mycologists include also Rozellomyceta and Aphelidiomyceta (protistologists often consider these two groups as Protista, not Fungi). No change in the clade/taxon Holomycota Liu et al. 2009 (in fact a junior synonyme to Nucletmycea Brown et al. 2009; Nucletmycea should be preferred according to the nomenclature code, but the name Holomycota is created similar to Holozoa which could be the reason for more frequent use) - the clade/taxon(superkingdom) Nucletmycea/Holomycota is supported by mycologists (Tedersoo et al.[15], adopted by broad international cooperation - Wijayawardene et al., 2020 [16]) as well as protistologists (broad international cooperation - Adl et al., 2019 [17]):

Nucletmycea	Cristidiscoidea Fungi Rozellomyceta Aphelidiomyceta True Fungi Eumycota (Fungi in some protistologists' view) (mycologists' recent view)
(=Holomycota)
	Holozoa

--Petr Karel (talk) 10:12, 21 November 2022 (UTC)