Talk:Operation Seabight

Seizure...??

Would the proper term be seizure. Because that could be terribly misinterpreted. Isn't there a better word for it? 99.13.70.203 (talk) 18:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought so too but I saw it in at least one media outlet and I think it's in at least one of the references contained in the article. If a more appropriate term is contrived it can be added in in due course. --➨Candlewicke  ^{:) Sign/Talk} 20:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

: Perhaps "The interception of??"

99.13.70.203 (talk) 22:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Seems quite belittling of the situation when one considers the yacht was stormed and it was rather dramatic... --➨Candlewicke  ^{:) Sign/Talk} 20:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

A Note for Editors

Hello everybody!

I have added its value in dollars, so that Americans reading this article can understand the sheer amount of cocaine seized. If you wish to revert my edit, please do so, although please leave me a note at my talk page as to why you're against having its parenthetical conversion in dollars. Thanks! – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 20:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The article should also show the conversion into British pounds as well then. Btw, thats £608,707,407.95p (WOW!!) :-) Thanks Sloan ranger (chat) 20:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I can tell that there are a lot of American editors and readers on Wikipedia and I suppose that will only increase substantially now that it's in the news... --➨Candlewicke  ^{:) Sign/Talk} 21:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

By the way, yes, the article does concern Britain so that would also make sense. But let's not overload it with currencies... by that logic, the Trinidad and Tobago dollar can't be excluded either though... --➨Candlewicke  ^{:) Sign/Talk} 21:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

This sounds like a good time to use footnotes. -LtNOWIS (talk) 21:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I was worried that, following that logic, we'd have to convert it to each currency (i.e. Japanese Yen, etc.). Footnotes sounds like a decent solution to me. – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 21:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Y Done. If you want to add anymore conversions or edit the note, then feel free to do so. That note is meant to be a rough note, so please polish it as much as possible. – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 21:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Purity

There is a quote from the Irish Independent asserting that street purity of cocaine in Ireland is 10%.

I'm not convinced this figure is accurate.

This link - Drug-market indicators - seizures, price, purity - indicates that across Europe, purity is 55% to 70%. Ireland is an exception, at 41% - this was in 1999. Admittedly, it's been eight years, but I find it at the least questionable that purity levels in Ireland have dropped to 10%. Also, Ireland is an exception anyway, so I think it's important to note that in Europe as a whole purity levels are higher, or people will read the article with the implicit assumption Ireland is typical. Toby Douglass (talk) 22:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

War Against Drugs

I think it might also contribute to the article if we can link it in some way to the ongoing "war against drugs". Very large amounts of money are spent to prevent drug use, but street prices for cocaine have been steadily decreasing over the last ten years, indicating supply is outstripping demand, so these seizures aren't really achieving their goal. It's worth mentioning, I think, in the article, otherwise people are going to lack the bigger picture - they will read the article, be very impressed by the capture, and complete fail to comprehend its context. Toby Douglass (talk) 22:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I added a see also link Ariconte (talk) 00:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Ages

"Three male British nationals, aged between 44 and 52... The three, named as 49 year-old Philip Doo and 40 year-old David Mufford (both from Devon, England) and 42 year-old Christopher Wiggins"

Anyone else see the issue with the math/ages? It is written as the sources detail, but clearly there is an error in one of the sources. How do we resolve it? --MartinezMD (talk) 20:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Y Resolved. --➨Candlewicke  ^{:) Sign/Talk} 20:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Comment

Just an aside, because you guys are in serious discussion. I wonder how many people will get murdered because of this. It would be great if news agencies could follow up on who got killed as a result of this. It makes for great news. I love it when gangsters kill each other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pacewiki (talk • contribs) 01:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I love that quote from the daily star about how dealers were thought to be planning on selling the drugs in the run up to christmas. Before reading that I never realised that drug dealers actually sold drugs :) Coolug (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

...everybody likes snow at Christmas! 80.176.88.21 (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

True "street" value

There is another note that the real value is more like €60 million. But, that's really different from the official estimation of €750 million. Could someone please look into this? Thanks, – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 01:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Regardless of the street value, wouldn't it be more accurate to use the shipment value, which would be much lower because it doesn't include the enormous end-point distribution costs. This value would be at least an order of magnitude smaller than even the €60M value that Obento cites. Yartrebo (talk) 00:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Undid some vandalism by 68.122.13.218.

--68.63.51.153 (talk) 03:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Article comments

• Citation for note b?
• We could use a good non-free image in the article, possibly this or one of these.

Note: I will add stuff above; check it off as we go. --Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 02:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I prefer the first one as it shows a bit more movement and emotion. The people in the first photo have either been caught at work or are very good actors. Those in the second one are just standing around looking very happy with themselves... --candle•wicke 18:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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