Talk:Operation Foxley

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Marchino61 in topic Timeline is nonsense

Anon addition

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SOE executives picked an unknown british marksman to go undercover and take the shot. The sniper was to go deep into the forest, and emerge some 300 meters from his target, hitler, who, every morning at 9:00 would walk to the town. His SS guard would trail him at over 70 meters, for Hitler was paranoied about being followed. But the sniper wasnt going to be alone in his mission. A POW that entered the ranks of the SS was now one of Hitler's guards, and therefore, a stream of intel flooded the SOE. The sniper had a clean shot, the escape fool-proof, and all was set. However, a lack of approveall led to the downfall of the dashing plan to end world war two. For more info, you mayt want to watch the history channel, for they have an excellent program about operation foxley.

The above was added by an anon. It might be relevant, but I'm not sure. Could we get confirmation from someone else who has watched said documentary. - RoyBoy 800 15:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

If helpful, I remember listening to a BBC radio interview with the marksman selected/volunteered for the proposed mission. I think it was about 15 years ago. Apparently his name was in some later declassified documents, and the BBC discovered that he was still alive. Sorry, I don't recall his name, so please search BBC radio archives. I do recall that he wasn't a career military officer, but had joined at the outbreak of war. Prior to the war he was a champion competitive marksman in the UK. He also stated that the planned attack, in his opinion, had a good chance of success, depending on wind and visibility. His firing position was to have been from an adjacent mountainside. I don't recall if he spoke about a proposed second team member. He did say that an extraction plan to get him out was discussed, but that he understood that it was likely a suicide mission. I don't know how far back the BBC keeps audio archives, but they did interview the man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.88.92.56 (talk) 04:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Documentary

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We are told that the program featured a present day analysis by a group of men. What group of men? I think that needs to be more specific somehow. --Hydraton31 18:29, 9 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Agreed.i removed the phrase "by a group of men". Mujinga 16:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

clean up tag removed

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I have removed the cleanup tag after doing some wikification and fixing some grammatical errors. Mujinga 16:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps prematurely - The preamble to the article gives the likely dates at 13/14 july. But later in the piece it states the plan was only submitted in Nov. One of these dates is wrong. I did watch the documentary but that was a couple of years ago and I only stumbled over the article today during some un-related research.

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Where does the "smoke screen" come from?

"German TV documentary "Hitler's Berg" shows the Man Hunt scene, and also a test of the smoke screen. Late in the war, when Leibstandarte troops (Hitler's normal bodyguard) were sent to the front, replacements came in the form of BDM Girls, who were brought in to operate the smoke screen, and young RAD workers to operate the flak emplacements."

Except for this mention, it isn't referenced anywhere in the article or elsewhere in this section. Glane23 (talk) 18:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I came to the talk page to ask this, as well. It has been two years, I'll do a bit of research to see if I can figure it out, and cut the paragraph if I can't. gnfnrf (talk) 03:29, 23 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Removal suggestion

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The following point is made under the "Sniper attack plan" heading:

...several attempts had been made to kill him, including one, by the German officer Claus von Stauffenberg, that took place during the planning of this operation. None of them were successful, and Stauffenberg's attempt only injured Hitler. It did, however, have the result that public appearances of Hitler were greatly reduced — to just one or two every year — thus limiting the opportunities for another assassination attempt.

Is the mentioned assassination attempt lead by Stauffenberg referencing that of the one on July 20, 1944? Hitler committed suicide about 10 months later, which would contradict the statement that Hitler's appearances were greatly reduced "to just one or two every year". I would like to suggest that without proper citation, the entire above quote be removed from the article page. The quoted statement lacks correct dating in both the first and second sentences. Further, without proper citation, the statement sounds speculative in nature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deflime (talkcontribs) 00:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Entirely Unreferenced Page

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No citations atall. Tag added PurpleMesa (talk) 18:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

I did remove a citation though due to the fact it didn't contain anywhere on it that says what was said on the Wiki page PurpleMesa (talk) 18:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Dubious reference to silenced Luger

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the source that claims a custom one-of-a-kind luger was created specifically for this mission appears dubious. Considering there are in fact 4 of such weapons held at the Royal Armouries Museum in Leeds and the news story that that article is quoting states that 10 were made. Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms at the Royal Armories claims that there is no evidence for the claim that these pistols were created for Operation Foxley (though he admits that it's possible) in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woAPqCCqi88 182.48.128.125 (talk) 04:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Timeline is nonsense

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In the lede we are told that the most likely date for the assassination was July 1944, then further down we read that the operation was submitted for authorisation in November 1944.

Neither of these two contradictory statements is supported by a reference.

Marchino61 (talk) 01:42, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply