Talk:Open central unrounded vowel

Italian

This sound may occur in Italian in regional or dialectal pronunciation. The "official" sound is a — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.118.215.191 (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

--JorisvS (talk) 09:45, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

From personal experience, I agree. This pronunciation is typical for Northern Italy (at least some regions, I'm not familiar with the relevant literature and haven't made a study), the region adjacent to the German and French Sprachräume (where this pronunciation is the norm) and continually influenced by them historically until recently, I might add. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 12:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Casa is pronounced ['ka:za]. I made a correction.--95.253.102.168 (talk) 12:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC).

German

Apparently German is only erroneously here because even the pronunciation of the example given (katze) uses [a], not [ä]: [ˈkʰatsə] --Espoo (talk) 15:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

It depends on your accent. Northern German accents influenced by Low German may pronounce short /a/ as front [a] and long /aː/ as back [ɑː]. However, in a neutral, regionally unmarked "newscaster accest", both vowels will exhibit exactly this quality. Check the sample: The speaker seems to be a native speaker of German to me. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 12:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Sound file

Why does the soundfile ä sound more back than ɑ?--2.245.230.59 (talk) 22:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

The one at open back unrounded vowel does not sound very back to me (possibly ~central). The one at this page sounds near-back to me. --JorisvS (talk) 13:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree. The one at open back unrounded vowel isn't a true back vowel. It should sound "darker" than it does. I think it used to, but someone made a new recording (possibly an Anglophone who thought it should sound exactly like the English vowel of "father", even though it's a reference vowel). The recording here sounds like it was done by an Australian, but it says it's a native speaker of Hebrew so I guess I'm wrong. 174.56.160.47 (talk) 21:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually, it should be even more back than RP father. South African /ɑː/ would do, though not for all speakers. Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 14:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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@Somsak Ung: Per WP:BURDEN, you need to provide citations for your claims. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 13:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Creaky voice sound sample

Why is it that so many of these sound samples is done with creaky voice? Since this is supposed to be a representation of the the particular vowel in it's most commonly used form, I find the creaky voice guy to be annoying. Bladesinger46n2 (talk) 16:24, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Are done, rather (my apologies) Bladesinger46n2 (talk) 16:26, 31 July 2021 (UTC)