Talk:OpenDocument software

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 12think in topic Rename this article

List of software that supports Office Open XML edit

This article should be more similar to List of software that supports Office Open XML. Why isn't it? Why is it so more messy? ScotXW (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

[Merge] edit

Seems like a job for WikiCalc where users could sort the list according to desired criteria; however I support the merging of this, one of the most important aspects of OpenDocument. -SH

OK, it’s been a week so I’ve been bold and gone ahead with this. There’s still some tidy up required—in particular some applications have ended up Unclassified, and I’m not happy with the ‘Microsoft argument’ section. ‘Microsoft’ could probably be summarised too. Barefootguru 19:19, 24 December 2005 (UTC)Reply
The complete history of Microsoft support for ODF throughout the years is unnecessarily long and of no interest in people interested in the subject, needs to be put on a separate page for historical reasons though. (tidy up suggested 6 years ago seems like a good idea). ML - 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Apple Pages and OpenDocument edit

Is Apple going to support OpenDocument in Pages anytime soon? --Hhielscher 16:52, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Xushi, 20080206:1750 - If it helps, NeoOffice supports OpenDocument, and it runs on OSX. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.90.173.180 (talk) 15:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

At our school we tell the students to use the free NeoOffice if they don't have the latest Microsoft Office. With native format OpenDocument, when using NeoOffice and sharing a document, one needs to save it in Microsoft family of formats. We actually prefer NeoOffice over MicroSoft Office, which is often too cumbersome. LoopTel (talk) 20:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Another compatible free software is Bean (word processor only).LoopTel (talk) 00:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

ODT support: Word processors and others edit

I subdivided the ODT section into word processors and other applications. My theory is that people wanting to use this list as an encyclopedic resource for OpenDocument applications may want to be able to see all the word processors specifically. The article had this distinction at one point, but it must have gotten lost when all the other great information was merged here. IEdML 15:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

In Windows 7 WordPad supports odt natively, I think it must be included. Angel Ochoa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.54.98.155 (talk) 01:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Page name edit

This page was moved from List of applications supporting OpenDocument to OpenDocument/Software and then OpenDocument Software, but I can't find any discussion on the issue. To me, the new name is vague and not really an improvement. Even assuming the rename is a good idea, the appropriate name per the MoS would be OpenDocument software, with the second word lowercase. Wmahan. 17:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Now this seems to have been clarified in Talk:OpenDocument. Louie 01:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Interoperability problems between ODF software implementations edit

It seems that there are serieus problems exchanging ODF documents between for instance OOo en kOffice.

http://steve.zaske.com/?p=17

So allthough the suggestion of this article is exchangeability it might be wise to advise people not to exchange documents for editting purposes yet. At least for the tim for viewing purposes only as editting ODF that is not created with the same application leads to a serieus risk possible loss of formatting and even data. I find it quite remarkeble that these problem are not discussed anywere on wikipedia when discussing ODF formats--HAl 13:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's a fair criticism, so thank you for adding the information at OpenDocument. I think it's worth noting that the blog you linked is written by a Microsoft Office developer, so it is hardly an unbiased source of information. I added some links to brief descriptions of the bugs at opendocumentfellowship.org. Wmahan. 15:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
It might be critisism from a MS developer but he is probably right is stating that MS would not accept putting out an Office version that severly damages files as current software versions of kOffice, Google Writely and Abiword do. Also it is good critisism as anybody can verify his findings as he used a publicly available odf file from OASIS. And lastly I do not think you need to inform OpendocumentFellowship anymore as they seem well aware of this problem. They aren't very "open" about it though.--HAl 18:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
I meant that I added links to opendocumentfellowship.org in the OpenDocument article; sorry that wasn't clear. Opinions such as what Microsoft might or might not accept; how serious or "severe" the problems are in the larger context of the OpenDocument format; and how open the OpenDocument group really is are a matter of POV and don't belong in the article. Wmahan. 08:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Miscellaneous issues edit

In the Accessibility section, the links to the OASIS site for the Peter Korn material require a password. So I cannot verify that the source matches the claims.Rick Jelliffe 08:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Also, is there any problem here that Peter Korn is Sun's Accessibility Architect [1]? When he is quoted that For a vast number of disabilities, there are no known problems, though. it is material from a vendor not an independent expert. I suggest change "Peter Korn gave..." to "Sun Microsystems Accessibility Architect Peter Korn gave..." I am making no suggestion that it is inappropriate to have this link. Rick Jelliffe 14:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

In the links section, it says

Updegrove, Andy. Standards Blog at consortiuminfo.org, timely and thorough coverage of ODF issues especially as relates to adoption by the state of Massachusetts. would perhaps be better
Updegrove, Andy. Standards Blog at consortiuminfo.org, timely and thorough coverage of ODF issues especially as relates to adoption by the state of Massachusetts by the lawyer of ODF's standards body OASIS.

(See [2]). It is not from an independent expert. I am making no suggestion that it is inappropriate to have this link. The URL is incorrect too, by the way.Rick Jelliffe 08:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I will not edit the following myself, due to supposed conflict of interest. In the references section there is a link Christians Challenge Microsoft to support ODF for Disadvantaged. It does not seem to be referenced anywhere in the text and is outdated. Rick Jelliffe 14:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

I will not edit the following myself, due to supposed conflict of interest. In the section on Microsoft, where it says Microsoft has been accused... it references an article on Groklaw. However that page merely quotes extensively a blog of somebody called Rob Weir, without mentioning that the material comes from an employee of rival vendor and IBM/Lotus delegate to ODF OpenFormula, indeed from the same Rob Weir here on Wikipedia. (Rob, I am surprised that Pamela does not seem to know who you are! :-)) I suggest the paragraph should say Microsoft has been accused by IBM/Lotus ODF representative Rob Weir... and reference Rob's blog directly. (IMHO, sentences like "has been accused" without clear statements of who the accuser is should always be improved to include who the accuser is; where no accuser can be found, the accusation is rumour or Chinese Whisper. IMHO, where an accusation is being quoted, it is better to source the original accusation if possible.) Rick Jelliffe 16:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Reply


Newer versions of office apparantly do no longer support opening and editing odf documents but need a microsoft online service to do conversion to microsoft formats: https://support.office.com/client/ef8ff042-c40c-4d9f-9d11-0d21f88e4179 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2CA0:3135:16:1:10B7:A1E2:7234 (talk) 07:41, 4 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

ODF plugin for microsoft office from sun edit

This plugin isn't mentioned in the article: http://www.sun.com/software/star/openoffice/ I think it can read every odf format, even odp or ott or ods, etc...... --62.227.140.61 08:00, 17 August 2007 (UTC)Reply


Accessibility edit

Considering that this is an encyclopedial article, the section on accessibility reads very much like a political statement: "Having an accessible specification is not enough; what is needed are accessible implementations." ... is not exactly neutral language. I'll remove that specific line in a couple of days, and suggest that somebody in the know looks over the section. --LasseFolkersen (talk) 08:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

No google docs support edit

I can't get google docs to open .odts anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.52.24 (talk) 03:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Google docs support odt, no problem at all. Visit Officeshots project or try it out.

Kingsoft Office edit

Remove "Kingsoft Impress" from the section of presentation. The reasons are :

(1) There's not a software product name as "Kingsoft Impress". (2) Kingsoft Office Suite doesn't has a product called "Kingsoft Impress". (3) Kingsoft Presentation doesn't support the Opendocument format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.67.57.162 (talk) 11:28, 31 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Rename this article edit

From "OpenDocument Software" to "List of software that supports OpenDocument". e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_supports_Office_Open_XML Obviously all the linked articles would need to be corrected. 12think (talk) 12:26, 17 June 2022 (UTC)Reply