Talk:Opel Insignia

Good start, needs tidying

Thankyou to whoever wrote this article. It's an excellent start but I think we need to tidy up the language a little, as it is rather disjointed. Also needs more mention of the Vauxhall Insignia (which is basically the same car, but sold in the UK market). If I get time I'll tidy it up and add the Vauxhall information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.183.201 (talk) 23:06, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Coming to America???

I live in Metro Detroit, and have seen 2 Insignias driving around, and one on a car hauler. Is the Insignia coming to the US?

Ishwasafish ^{click here!!!}

02:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

This is the last place in the world to discuss it, but yeah, it's coming for 2011 or so as the new Buick Regal. It already is the Regal in China. Please discuss at GMInsideNews or other forums. Kind, PrinceGloria (talk) 04:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

delay of 140 kW Diesel

The statement "The latter, engine code A20DTR, has been delayed until at least 2011, as Saab, who produces the unit in its TTiD models is now no longer part of GM" seems wrong. First, the engine is also not available in the Saab 9-5, and why should it, if Saab produces the engine; they are in urgent need of a stron Diesel for the European market. Second, Diesel engines so far have not been produced by Saab, but were purchased from either Fiat or Opel (built in Kaiserlautern). Third, in 2008, Saab has sold their engine manufacturing plant, so I doubt that they would be able to produce any engines, even if its merely a modification based on a base engine devlied e.g. from Opel. It appears more plausible that Opel or Fiat ran into problems with this bi-turbo variant when updating the previous 1.9 l engine to the 2.0 l. Thyl Engelhardt213.70.217.172 (talk) 14:32, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Dubious Data

Insignia B 1.5 gasoline can't have 250Nm of torque at 2000-4500rpm as that would mean 118kW at 4500rpm which is not compatible with max. power of 103kW at 5600rpm or even with 121kW at 5600rpm. Opel website sometimes (in tech specs in PDF) gives the same torque in 2000-4100rpm for both versions but even that is too high, as that means 107kW at 4100rpm. Anybody knows the real power/torque figures? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.97.151.115 (talk) 15:11, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Bitter Cars

I've removed the Bitter Insignia again, as per WP:BRD. I'm still not convinced that this is a notbale addition. The Bitter website - even used as a primary source - barely mentions the Insignia "2010 - erscheint der neue Insignia by BITTER" ("The new Insignia by Bitter") is as good as it gets. 3rd party sources are even harder to come by - all Google can come up with is this which is a preview of what may be; "Bitter has yet to make an official announcement"

There's no indication of how many were produced or sold, price, or what the specs actually were.

Automotive designers/modifiers such as Kahn Design aren't listed in their respective articles, such as Range Rover - who Project Khan are pretty well known for, so I see no reason why an exception should be made here - certainly not without reliable sourcing.

I don't dispute that the car exists - only its notability, which is lacking at the moment. Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:40, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from. However, I think the relationship between Bitter and Opel is more like the one between BMW and Alpina.

"There's no indication of how many were produced or sold, price, or what the specs actually were."

Bitter's own site says at least 17 Insignias were made (http://www.bittercars.com/Insignia.php). The specs and price (~65 000 €) are available in this (http://www.autobild.de/artikel/opel-insignia-von-bitter-fahrbericht-1202542.html) article by Auto Bild.

Yes, Bitter is a small-scale manufacturer but it certainly deserves a mention on the article, just like Alpina cars are mentioned on BMW articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogs.barking.duster.rolling (talk • contribs) 11:46, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Alpina are not a good example - they're in a whole other league when compared to Bitter (and indeed almost any other auto tuner). As taken from the Alpina lede:

Alpina works closely with BMW and their processes are integrated into BMW's production lines, thus Alpina is recognized by the German Ministry of Transport as an automobile manufacturer, in contrast to other performance specialists which are aftermarket tuners. For instance, the Alpina B7 is produced at the same assembly line in Dingolfing, Germany, as BMW's own 7 Series. The B7's twin-turbo 4.4-litre V8 is assembled by hand at Alpina's facility in Buchloe, Germany, before being shipped to BMW for installation, and the assembled vehicle is then sent back to Alpina for finishing touches.

Their level of integration with the BMW assembly line and production is way above pretty much any other tuner. Even smaller BMW tuners such as Baur utilise BMW production lines and are dealt with via BMW dealerships.

However, I'm still not seeing any real 3rd party sources to support inclusion via notability. Chaheel Riens (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

2.8L Turbo V6 variant in Australia

I just came to this article to learn about the 2.8L V6 turbo version of the 2015 Holden Insignia. I was not aware the car existed, and that particular engine is not mentioned in the article at all. Does anyone have the details to add it to the line up? It was in the Australian Holden Insignia VXR from around 2015. There are lots of articles about the Insignia VXR around the web.

References

Z18 sold as Holden Commodore ZB in Australasia

The Opel Insignia Z18 was sold as Holden Commodore ZB in Australasia between 2018 and 2020 --Lamborghinimaster (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

So? It's clearly written in the article. Andra Febrian (talk) 15:37, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Opel Insignia C

The Opel Insignia C will be released in 2023 in Europe (rebadged as a Vauxhall in the United Kingdom). Mebius Herichon (talk) 18:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Opel Insignia-e

The Opel Insignia-e will be launched in Europe on 2023 (rebadged as a Vauxhall in the United Kingdom). Derwydd74 (talk) 03:46, 21 December 2022 (UTC)