Talk:One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 08:20, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Lead and infobox

• To the best of my knowledge the Billboard singles chart always have 100 positions. Not sure if it indeed reached "No. 119 on the US Billboard chart"?

• Took me a bit of time to pin this one down. It's listed as a number 119 in Joel Whitburn's top pop singles 1955-2012, but the intro to that book made me think it must be the Bubbling Under the Hot 100 chart. I've added the issue of Billboard which it appeared there as an additional reference in the body, and amended the article text in the lead and body. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Background and recording

• Pipe master
• "The master take lasts four minutes and 55 seconds" is repeated twice

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Releases

• Same concern regarding the 100-position Billboard chart

• See reply above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Critical comments

• The entire first paragraph should have its own section i.e. "Lyrical interpretation"

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

• Ditto the quote-farm issues with other Dylan song articles I've reviewed. Also, try to group similar-ish reviews in a paragraph with an opening sentence for better flow (WP:RECEPTION)

• Hopefully improved now. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

• Any further information regarding the song's music, sound...?

• Wilfrid Mellers wrote that " the tune soars upward in triadic form, and turns into a forceful tumbling strain in the refrain. The beat is sturdy, the same as that of 'Johanna' but faster; the tonality is a clear diatonic major, with no blue notes" (A darker shade of pale : a backdrop to Bob Dylan, p.146). Unfortunately, I don't know what this means, so didn't want to just add it in. I've added a little from Gray, but looking through a few other sources, didn't find anything else. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

• "The reviewer for Cash Box"
• Ditto for Liverpool Echo, Bucks Examiner, Evening Post
• "criticised" → American spelling for consistency
• Italicize Uncut

• Amended per the four points above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Verdict

•  On hold for seven days. Also, would appreciate it if you could review The Best Day (Taylor Swift song), which has been up at GAN since Sep last year..! Ippantekina (talk) 17:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Many thanks, Ippantekina. Let me know if anyhting else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks for addressing my comments. Passing now :) Ippantekina (talk) 06:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.