Talk:On the Threshold of a Dream

Runout groove

Does the "needs clarification" note refer to the fact that Wikipedia does not define "runout groove" though descriptions of a fair number of other albums use the term, or that a reference is needed to justify the claim of there being something IN the runout groove?

The concept is simple enough - sound in the runout groove will play repeatedly until the needle is removed from the record. Some turntables do this automatically, some don't. For those that don't, the runout groove can play for many hours, much longer than an entire CD. If you want to get pedantic, it will play until the vinyl wears completely through the record, though the sound will have turned to noise long before then.

For practical purposes, the effect can be duplicated on CD for the second side of the record by creating a cut consisting of the runout groove looped for whatever length it takes to fill the entire CD. For most vinyl albums, running from thirty to forty minutes in length, this is nearly a half hour, which is probably long enough to grasp the original effect.

It could be done for both sides by making the runout groove cuts about fifteen minutes each - plenty long enough to force the listener to get up and "turn the record over", so to speak. If these cuts were "hidden" (i.e. not given track numbers or indexes), the effect would be even stronger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10,_9,_8,_7,_6,_5,_4,_3,_2,_1 has a so-so but understandable description of the locked-groove phenomenon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.178.36 (talk) 16:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Have added this as a piped link for runout groove. But you're right, it's not clear for what the clarification was requested. There would seem to be no need to explain how CDs try to emulate vinyl in this particular article - so maybe we could now remove that tag. Maybe also, however, runout groove needs its own article? (imho, to give the run-out groove a track number would seem to defeat the original intended purpose, but some producers might wish to do that for other reasons?) Martinevans123 (talk) 18:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

CD liner notes

An editor added this entry to List of Transcendental Meditation practitioners:

• Justin Hayward, musician, (The Moody Blues)
  • 'On The Threshold Of A Dream'(1969)CD sleeve notes

I looked at a website which has copies of liner notes and found what they describe as the "Original 1969 album liner notes".[1] However it makes no mention of Transcendental Meditation. By any chance, do any editors of this article have the CD, and if so could they verify the citation? I've tagged it so all that'd need to happen would be removing the tag and perhaps adding a short quote from the liner text.   Will Beback  talk  18:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Lyrics writers?

Who are the lyrics writers? UnTrueOrUnSimplified (talk) 20:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Their usual pattern was for each writer to sing (or speak) the song(s) they had written. But I'll need to check the album sleeve. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:08, 2 August 2015 (UTC)