Talk:Okoi

Okoi's name? Kisaragi?

I am fairly certain that Okoi's name is merely Okoi. It is not short for Kisaragi Okoi, despite the fact that she is the younger sister of Kisaragi Saemon. Historic Japanese names are not tied to family in that way, based upon what I read in the article on that subject: Japanese name#Historical names.

My only direct source for information on this subject is the anime, but in the anime I have never seen her called Kisaragi Okoi. In fact, none of the female characters are ever given surnames, with the possible exception of Iga no Ogen, which is probably just because she is the leader of the Iga. I think Oboro was called Iga Oboro once or twice, too.

I think that the redirect on Iga Oboro and Iga Ogen are correct, but I bet that when Kisaragi Okoi was made to redirect to this article, someone was being a bit too clever and incorrectly tried to infer Okoi's full name from Saemon's name. -- Lilwik 23:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

There are two name formats.

• surname + adulthood given name was used by men (after genpuku).
  • Kouga Gennosuke (Kouga family of Kouga clan)
  • Kisaragi Saemon (Kisaragi family of Kouga clan)
• childhood given name was used by men (before genpuku) and women (all age).
  • Yashamaru (unknown family of Iga clan) - He is young yet.
  • Oboro (unknown family of Iga clan) - She was called "Iga no Oboro", it means "Oboro of Iga clan". However, in Funimation's English version, her name was changed (or mistranslated) to "Iga Oboro".
  • Okoi (Kisaragi family of Kouga clan)

These are their fullnames. Okoi is never called "Kisaragi Okoi". --Mahiro 11:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Psychic link?

Do Saemon and Okoi have a psychic link? It says so in the article, but it was not mentioned in the anime. Does anyone have a reference for this, or is it just a guess based upon the fact that Okoi is somehow able to talk to Saemon silently? It seems to me far more likely that she and Saemon use some less extraordinary means of covert communication. Perhaps they were reading each others hand movements, while they were holding hands.

A psychic link is a radical claim and should not be included if it is just a guess. -- Lilwik 20:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

They certainly used their hands to send coded messages to each other. --Mahiro 11:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Okoi in the novel

This has been added to the article:

In the novel, while she still has the same ability to drain blood through skin contact, she doesn't have to vomit out the extra blood before using the ability again.

But I'm pretty sure that it is wrong. In the copy of the book that I have, she couldn't drain blood through her skin. She had special skin that would allow her to cling to a person like an octopus, but when it came to blood she was just a regular vampire, forced to bite and drink in the usual way. I agree with the makers of the manga and anime that draining blood through the skin is much better, just one of the many improvements made to Basilisk over time.

Even worse, in the book she did have to vomit. It was even more direct there, in through the mouth and then out again the same way.

I hate to simply revert away an obviously serious contribution, but this seems so terribly wrong. -- Lilwik 10:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)