Talk:Ogyges

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Mythological figures are better described in terms of the myth they appear in, rather than "is said to have..." etc. --07:21, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Various dates have been assigned to the event, including 9500 BCE (Plato),[See Timaeus (22), Critias (111-112), and The Laws Book III.] 2136 BCE (Varro), and 1796 BCE (Africanus).[11]

The Timaeus/Critias reference makes definitly no sense, because Plato claims Atlantis was destroyed by the third of four and NOT by the first (Ogygian) flood! --Bone

Exact date in 1514bc of explosion

Africanus 1793bc for the exodus is 280 years off of the 1514bc that other chronologies indicate be it Chinese 1440 years 2953bc Noah to 1513bc, or Mayan 1600 as 3114-1513bc, as well as many others. What implies May 8 as the date of explosion is the fact that 280 years is 70 leap days, and 70 days is the Memphite 70-day absence of Sothis from May 8 to July 17 so that 365-day calendar date of 1513bc May 8 is 1793bc July 17. Persian Pamenot 1 in 1514bc is March 10, Parmuti Apr 9 thus May 8 is Parmuti 30 in 1514bc and July 17 is Parmuti 30 in 1794bc and in leap year 1793bc July 17 becomes Pakon 1. Thus we are comparing 1793bc July 17 (Pakon 1) to 1514bc May 8 (Parmuti 30). Egyptian according to Masoretic Genesis is Persian Pakon 1, but Septuagint Genesis & Ramses Papyrus Canon uses our current traditional Egyptian as unaltered which is a 5-day shift from Persian. The result is date-change or year-change, as 1514bc May 3 (Parmuti 30) and May 8 (Pakon 5) or 1793bc July 12 (Pakon 1) and July 17 (Pakon 6). Africanus likely had the date Pakon 1 and so would accept July 12 rather than place the event 20 years earlier in 1813bc. July 12 is the rise of Sothis in Thebes being 5 degrees south (5x 69 miles = 345 miles). However, accepting the Parmuti 30 date as May 8 in tradition EGyptian will be 20 years before 1514bc or in the years 1537-1534bc. It would seem the fear of the star Sothis is implied for Sodom and a rising of July 18 in 1918bc. Here we have THE END or (May 8) death of Sothis to mark the eruption. The rising star was not Sothis but a comet according to Newton & Halley & Whiston. If the comet orbited to make a funnel cloud of light and dark then obviously half of it had split and already hit the earth causing the eruptions everywhere. So the question is whatmyths in what nations use the date Parmuti 30 (last day of the 2nd month or 8th month) to Pakon 1 (the 3rd month or 9th month). I would be interested.98.144.71.174 (talk) 18:55, 25 November 2012 (UTC)