Talk:Obviously 5 Believers/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 07:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Lead and infobox

• "9–10 March 1966 session" switch to MDY for consistency with American English
• "It has been interpreted as a blues song about loneliness" any reason why blues was left out of |genre= in the infobox?
• "as one of the minor songs" "minor songs" might mean "unmemorable", "insignificant"...?
• "In 2010 the song was included" comma after year

Background and recording

• "early morning hours of the 9–10 March 1966 Nashville session" ditto. Also add a comma after the date per MOS:COMMA
• "Sean Wilentz feels that the song is driven by..." who is Sean Wilentz?
• "and that he didn't want to spend much time on it" → "did not" for a more encyclopedic tone
• "In 2010 it was included" ditto

Composition

• "Philippe Margotin and Jean-Michel Guesdon" who are they? Critics? Biographers of Dylan? etc.
• "The song is similar in melody and structure to Memphis Minnie's "Chauffeur Blues" " might need some attribution
• The caption of the audio file could be moved to the prose. Keep the caption succinct.

Critical reception

• Some quotes can be paraphrased to avoid a quote farm. I.e. "one of Dylan's most assured, commanding vocals", "the best R&B song on the album"

Other

• Refs are reliable and properly formatted
• Images and files are properly licensed

Verdict

•  On hold for seven days. Mostly nitpick-y prose issues but overall a solid article. Ippantekina (talk) 04:11, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

• Many thanks, [[User:Ippantekina]|Ippantekina]]]. I've amended the article to address all of your comments. Let me know if anything else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

  All should be good now BennyOnTheLoose except one last thing. I prefer the lead not having any inline citations (MOS:LEADCITE), so could you paraphrase the "filler" and "makeweight" comments in the lead and remove the citations? Ippantekina (talk) 02:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  Does "insubstantial" work, Ippantekina? Thanks, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:10, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  That should work! Passing, well done :) Ippantekina (talk) 02:47, 15 March 2023 (UTC)