Talk:Numerical weather prediction/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• The lede should be split into two paragraphs

  How about that? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• You have two consecutive sentences starting with "Bjerknes" - try rewording one of them

  Fixed. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

• "to numerically estimate" - avoid split infinitives
  • "to explicitly resolve" - that's used in "Domains"
  • "to definitively predict " - that's used in "ensembles"
  • "to not be" - that's also used in "ensembles"
    • Fixed all those. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• I notice a lot of the history uses passive voice. Sometimes, the sentence could and should be reworded to clarify what has been done.
  • "was entirely subjective and based" - that is an example where there is improper parallelism, in that subjective would be the adjective to "was"'s being verb, but "based" makes "was based" a passive voice clause.
• "His forecast calculated that the change in surface pressure would be of 145 millibars (4.3 inHg)" - the "would be of" is throwing me off - is that proper writing?
  • Fixed. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "Soon after, in 1966" - is that really soon after 1959?
  • I think it is :) but removed it anyways. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 23:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• Who/what organization introduced the first global computer model?
  • That whole paragraph is all the National Meteorological Center (now known as the HPC). How would I reword it without being redundant? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "In 1956, Norman Phillips developed a mathematical model which could realistically depict monthly and seasonal patterns in the troposphere, which became the first successful climate model." - is "realistically" the best word there?
  • Well, it's the first climate model with any sort of accuracy, so what other words would be adequate here? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "Also, swell was not modeled realistically." - it's a really small sentence - any way to combine it with another one, or expand on it?
  • Merged it into the previous sentence. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• The "Initialization" paragraph is really long. Can you split it?
  • Split and rearranged. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
  • "Models are initialized using this observed data." - any reason for the italics?
    • This is to use as a definition of the term, in case we create a redirect like Initialization (meteorology). Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• Also, how come there is history stuff in the "Initialization" paragraph? There is already a history section
  • Yes, but the dates mentioned in the initialization section pertain to the times where model initialization was improved through the addition of new variables. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "A model, in this context" - that's a poor way to start a paragraph. Try introducing the subject better
  • Took out the awkward phrase, which was a relic to a version that predated our recent edits. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "the set of equations used to predict the known as the physics" - is there a word missing?
  • Stray clause. Fixed. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 17:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
    • I further refined the sentence. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• The writing feels rather dull in the first paragraph of the "Computation" section. So many of them start with "the x did this", or "this y did that".
  • See if the new version is better. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "This makes sense" - ehh, pretty unencyclopediac writing
  • Reworded. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "Extremely small errors in the initial input, such as temperatures and winds, within numerical models double every five days" - it seems the commas are out of place. The sentence just reads weirdly
  • It looks like this has already been addressed. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "involving multiple forecasts created with and individual forecast model" - something missing there? Is "and" supposed to be "an"?
  • Yes. It has been fixed. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• "The ensemble forecast is usually evaluated in terms of the ensemble mean of a forecast variable, and the ensemble spread, which represents the degree of agreement between various forecasts, known as ensemble members, in the ensemble system." - you use "ensemble" five times in one sentence! Plx fix, k thx
  • Okay. That was funny. It has been reworded. Thegreatdr (talk) 23:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

All in all, a good read. There are just some minor writing things that I'd like to see worked on. As such, I put the GAN on hold. Let me know if you have any questions. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! And I was especially impressed how you limited the number of "ensemble" usages in the one sentence from five to two. I'm happy to pass it now. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)