Talk:Nuño Rasura

Latest comment: 14 years ago by Agricolae in topic Old sources

King Froila edit

Is there any indication from the Chronicon which Fruela might be meant, i.e. what time period the Chronicon thinks it is speaking of? Fruela I or Fruela II? Srnec (talk) 02:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

This is a holdover from the previous edit. The Chronicon was probably just 'confused'. Agricolae (talk) 03:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
I just added Lucas's version, which appears (genealogically) to be referring to Fruela II, but that might just be Lucas's way of making all things fit, so I left the ambiguity in the footnote. Srnec (talk) 03:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
I also put it up for "Did you know..." here, if you'd like to take a look. Srnec (talk) 03:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Old sources edit

How exactly is 1991 an old source? -- Esemono (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Nuño is a legend, as Fletcher says, quite clearly, on page 59. Incorporate whatever you can about the legend, but do not confuse it with history. Srnec (talk) 04:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Fletcher, 1991 is not an old source. Washington Irving, 1867 is, as is Nathaniel Armstrong Wells, 1846. These old sources do not reflect the current scholarly consensus: they are not only old, they are dated. (e.g. Wells is giving a date when Gonzalo Nunez became count. Gonzalo Nunez is now accepted never to have existed - he was invented to link Fernan Gonzalez to Nuno Rasura.) Fletcher's material, if it is to be used (and I see no reason it shouldn't), needs to be used in a manner that carefully distinguishes legend from history, and without the obsolete 19th century credulous 'history' that formed an integral part of the edit I reverted. Agricolae (talk) 01:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Oh, and by the way, Castile is currently central modern-day Spain, but the territory Nuno supposedly controlled was not modern Castile, but about the northern third of Old Castile, bordering the Bay of Biscay. Agricolae (talk) 01:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Reply