Talk:Norton Knatchbull, 3rd Earl Mountbatten of Burma

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This article needs information on what this person actually does, not just on his family connections.

A reference for the claim that he is close to the royal family would not go amiss, either. Morwen - Talk 19:31, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I have removed "2nd" from Countess Mountbatten and Lord Romsey from the 8th Lord Brabourne's eldest son. It is not normal custom to use ordinals for female holders of titles [ie it's the 1st Earl of X, Countess of X then 3rd Earl of X]. Their son cannont use the courtesy title until Countess Mountbatten's death as his father currently has that right.Alci12 12:15, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

The link to Nicholas Knatchbull (1964-1979) comes up with the wrong person, it links to John Knatchbull, 7th Baron Brabourne Merlin-UK (talk) 17:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Peer?

Surely he's not a peer, and "Baron Brabourne" is a courtesy title? 84.203.74.123 (talk) 04:42, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

He is the son of a peer and peeress in their own rights. His mother has a higher ranking peerage (Earl/Countess) while his father was a Baron. He inherited his father's peerage (Baron Brabourne) upon his father's death; so yes, he is a peer. — Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 06:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

My mistake. I should have realized about his paternal patrimony after reading the slightly eye-watering section on his mother's journey through the order of precedence. 84.203.74.123 (talk) 09:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Succession Box

Isn't he the "incumbent" and shouldn't the word incumbent be replaced by "Successor" (and it rightly links Successor to the word Heir which I think should stay. Thoughts? will let comment lie for several days before making change71.167.64.58 (talk) 01:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Mountbatten title

His mother died yesterday, and he is her heir apparent. OK so far.

I was under the impression that new peers do not automatically succeed without further ado, but must go through a process of "claiming" their titles and establishing that they are indeed the rightful heir, and that this process involves submission and scrutiny of paperwork and takes some time.

Indeed, I have heard of cases where an heir has chosen NOT to claim their title and so it goes into abeyance pending further developments.

So, by what authority have we changed Norton's title overnight? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Jimbo disclaimed exercise of authority and the point was discussed, but generally his rationale seems to have held consensus: Wikipedia need not delay re-naming a peer's article using his/her new title until a preponderance of reliable sources reflect the change. But inheritance of the right to that title or style must still be properly sourced. Traditionally, the heir does not assume use of the inherited title (nor relatives any associated courtesy titles) until after the predecessor's funeral. But by law, the transfer is effective immediately. A peerage does not fall into abeyance merely by non-usage: the new peer has one year (or until age 22) in which to disclaim the title for life, but doing so neither accelerates nor extinguishes the next legal heir's eventual succession. Nothing, of course, requires a peer to use his or her hereditary titles, although anyone else who does so (except if entitled to bear such by courtesy) violates the law. If the new Lord Mountbatten is ever elected to the House of Lords, he will be entitled to receive a writ of summons from the Sovereign entitling him to take up his seat in Parliament. Only in that instance will he then be obliged to submit proof of his right to the earldom. FactStraight (talk) 07:28, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Well explained. Thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 07:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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So does he have Alzheimer's Disease?

His wife's article has said since last year that she took full authority over the family estate after he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease.Surely if this has become known it belongs in his article with some substantiation? 12.144.5.2 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree. I came looking at his article after reading hers and saw no mention of it or the affair which took him away from his family for several years. That's a big deal, and it's not mentioned at all. 2600:1700:BC01:9B0:544F:E012:2320:EFE4 (talk) 03:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)