Talk:Northern Territory Legislative Assembly

Merger complete

  Y Merger complete – Information from Chan Contemporary Artspace has been merged into this article. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:59, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Barrett

Can someone please update the diagram since Nathan Barrett has now resigned from the CLP? Thanks! Frickeg (talk) 02:16, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

"Excluded from caucus but not party"

Myself and other editors have revised the composition figures based on the caucus compositions since that seems to be the most relevant when considering the parliament groups. In short, the removed members are not part of the government. Given these circumstances however, it might be appropriate to designate them as "independent Labor". Onetwothreeip (talk) 01:35, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

This is a bit of a tricky one because I'm not aware of a precedent in recent history for this kind of history. "Independent Labor" or "Labor" are both true depending on how you're defining your terms. The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I can only think of Kevin Hogan in the federal parliament. I think fundamentally if they're not in the caucus then it's funny to put them anywhere but the crossbench. Onetwothreeip (talk) 05:14, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I think we're just going to have to wait and see on this one. "Independent Labor" would be total WP:OR in my opinion - I haven't heard them described that way at all. At this point the parliamentary website, not to mention the NT Labor website, still recognises the three as Labor MLAs, and just yesterday the NT News described McConnell as an "embattled Labor MP". If that changes, then we can change it too. Frickeg (talk) 05:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Jeff Collins (at least) has said he "would sit as an independent Labor member", so it's not so much WP:OR - but I broadly agree otherwise. The Drover's Wife (talk) 05:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

According to the NT Parliament, Vowles, McConnell and Collins were still Labor MPs after this caucus exclusion, however Collins has now resigned from the party on 8 February (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-08/jeff-collins-quits-labor-stands-as-independent-crossbench/10795762). Also, it looks like "The Alliance" bid to become the official Opposition isn't going to happen according to the Speaker and the Solicitor General as they aren't registered as a party (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-06/terry-mills-robyn-lambley-yingiya-guyula-alliance-opposition/10786856). --Canley (talk) 02:20, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Does anybody know where in the parliament chamber these excluded Labor MPs actually physically sit? Onetwothreeip (talk) 02:35, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, Canley - this clarifies the situation a lot. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:36, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

2020 opposition dispute

The leader of the opposition is currently listed as Terry Mills. Per MPs' vote on 24 March, I'm going to change it back to Lia Finocchiaro. With regards to the section on which parties are Government, Opposition etc., I think it would make more sense to list both the TA and CLP as "Opposition" as they both claim (or have claimed) to be the Opposition. Other discussion about this topic can be found here. YttriumShrew (talk) 12:18 AM, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

It should be changed back. Leader of the Opposition is a formal position, so Mills claiming it at this point (even if he rationally should have it) has about as much bearing as if I claimed to be the Prime Minister. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)