Talk:North Haven

Rem'val of See also

  I trashed this content (& its dab-pg heading):

• Haven (disambiguation)
• New Haven (disambiguation)
• South Haven (disambiguation)
• East Haven (disambiguation)
• West Haven (disambiguation)

I don't see that as closing the matter, but as opening a needed discussion. Dabs should be as terse as feasible. That's most important near the top of the page, but even if the only difference is that the essentially worthless material makes the Dab longer, that length is distracting; when a user reaches the end of the Dab without finding what they sought, and there is no See also section, it's not the Dab's job to keep feeding them less and less relevant articles (or Dabs) that might explain why what they were seeking was not on the page. If they're wrong in recalling which directional adjective they read, or only were only guessing that "N. Haven" used "N." to abbreviate "North", their time looking at a list of all the mistakes a WP editor could think of would instead be better spent using their knowledge of why they thought "North Haven" would be a good place to look, to deduce what is the most efficient way to proceed. Why should they look at our list when a moment's reflection, or confirmation of what they read, will almost certainly be better focused?
   I could be wrong (it happens over and over), but our colleague having worked on the page before me isn't enuf to show i'm wrong. If i'm wrong, tell us how and why before re-adding the kind of clutter i've removed.
--Jerzy•t 05:31, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Pre-empting my own neglected appeal

   I was more concerned, today, with reorganizing the non-controversial content than with the above mentioned inappropriate content, aimed apparently at users who can't at the moment recall whether they're looking for places called Some-direction Haven or No-particular-direction Haven -- i.e., users foolish enuf to use disambiguation pages for tasks where ambiguous naming is not the problems they're trying to solve. So it doesn't much matter whether

1. i forgot to carry out the trash-iating edit that i promised last year, or
2. someone reverted that edit by me, without more comment than, for instance, an edit summary mocking my appeal for discussion:

In either case no one cares much about the notion that a page intended to distinguish between different senses of "North Haven" is cluttered up with aids to who are likely to confuse North with other directions, or no direction at all.
--Jerzy•t 01:53, 17 March 2017 (UTC)