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@Gooduserdude: I don't believe that anything on this website should be sourced to any Nazi publication or outlet but I don't see how I could put that into practice on this page. My concern regarding the edit I reverted is more specific: it's the only thing on this article that's sourced to this organization's own website, which per WP:PRIMARY is rarely allowed. The first requirement at that policy section says that if a primary source is used, it must be "reputably published" and I bet I'd have no problem compiling dozens, hundreds, thousands of lies, inflammatory statements, and attacks on that website to prove it's no such thing.
Would you agree to revert this change until a source without an obvious connection to this organization can be found? City of Silver 20:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
found non-primary source and added it thereafter Gooduserdude (talk) 21:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
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The infobox says they're allied with Azov, but it seems like a stretch to say that they were and currently are allied like the article says. The source only says they have "links" to Azov and I wouldn't call going on a podcast together and them sending a delegation to meet Azov Brigade great evidence of an alliance or "close cooperation", especially given the NRM's stance on the war. On their website they seem to take a neutral or slightly pro-Russian stance on the conflict. They describe it as a "brother war" and say that "none of the conflicting sides are worth our official support" but they also say NATO provocation prompted Russia to invade. If anything, surely it'd be more accurate to say they're allied with and support Rusich group (a Russian neo-nazi group) given that they've worked with and sheltered the organization's second in command. 2403:580D:8038:0:F8EF:DB22:E3E2:E6D8 (talk) 08:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
This might sound counterintuitive, but supporting both Rusich/RIM and Azov isn't mutually exclusive. Atomwaffen and Base are neutral on the conflict and deal with both sides of the conflict, for example. Groups like this also send their people to the conflict area to gain military experience. Why limit yourself to one side? Both RIM and Azov run training camps for nazis, so might as well make most of a bad situation ("brother war"). I wouldn't oppose adding Rusich to the list of allied groups, but why take Azov out when they clearly do work together. Both Rusich and Azov have Finnish nazi volunteers to my knowledge.RKT7789 (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
