Talk:Non-partisan democracy

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Himbeerbläuling in topic A contradictory sentence

Michigan and Virginia edit

I took this out: "Residents of the states of Michigan and Virginia are not required to state an affiliation for a political party when registering to vote - unlike most states which require residents to specify whether they are Republican, Democrat, or another party."

I think some residents of those states got a little overzealous. I've never been affiliated with a party and I've lived in Alaska, Oregon, and Massachusetts, all of which allow this as an option. I also know from friends from North Dakota, Montana, Colorado, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Maine that their states allows this. In fact, I've never heard of it not being allowed. If I had to guess, I'd say its the norm, but I'm not going to put that in there because I don't know. What I do know is that this is not limited to those to states and this paragraph misrepresents it as such. -Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.33.197 (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

All pro, no con? edit

I think the article in general is fine, but we may need a 'criticism' or 'disadvantages' section in order to balance it. E.Cogoy 03:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Done. --Countakeshi 08:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

While this is true, it needs to be balanced, I'd rather move things into the text, so that the advantages and disadvantages are made clear in prose. This is more in line with Jimmy Wales' preferences for article formation anyway. No advantage or disadvantage should be highlighted or hidden by this process. Merely it should improve article flow. --Christian Edward Gruber 21:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Microstates edit

The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands operate a system very close to a non partisan system.--Darrelljon 13:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Toronto edit

An anon just deleted Toronto from the examples, because the New Democratic Party of Canada runs candidates. To my understanding they do not do so officially, in that parties have no recognition in the system of government, acquire no funding, and are accorded no priviledge for having members elected. It might be fair to say it is informally partisan IF the council can be shown to be exercising block-voting or other practices of party-discipline. However, I'm not aware of this and it should be cited.

It does raise an interesting question about systems that are structurally non-partisan, but in practice are implemented in partisan ways. The US Presidency is (or was) structurally non-partisan. However, over time, it has evolved (devolved?) into a highly partisan office. We should try to find a way to represent de-jure and de-facto partisanship in some way that is still NPOV. I'm really unclear on how to do this. --Christian Edward Gruber 19:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

What does "official recognition of parties" mean? Public funding of parties or lack of legally enforcible party discipline are very common in democratic representation systems, either partisan or non-partisan.

Democratic systems keep parties away from power - except elections. Parties excercising power are state-parties.

--peyerk (talk) 07:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

proportional representation edit

The article says, "The system works with first past the post but is incompatible with proportional representation systems." I think, this is not correct. Voting could be by means of the Single Transferable Vote which requires no parties while at the same time it delivers proportional result. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Martinwilke1980 (talkcontribs) 15:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC).Reply

Cleanup and referencing edit

I'm going to start adding references and cleaning up. The article isn't in good shape as it stands. --Christian Edward Gruber 21:25, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

It has been a while, and the article sorely lacks sources. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

This article needs a copy-editor for cleanup. Several places say "nonpartisan" (without a dash) and other places say "non-partisan" (with a dash). Let's make that consistently say "nonpartisan" since "nonpartisan" is an entire legal word unto itself and is not a double-word which needs a dash to combine them together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.147.8 (talk) 18:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Examples - NGO's edit

I don't think the NGO part under Examples really fits in. It's not an NGO, it's the leadership of a sect - there is not parties or politics in that. It's a bad example and therefore should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.201.206.171 (talk) 09:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I don't think the Bahai example fits either. This page is about political parties, rather than factions within a religion. Let's remove the Bahai example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.147.8 (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

several countries.. nonpartisan appoinments for presidents.... examples? edit

"Several countries with partisan parliaments use nonpartisan appointments to choose presidents."

Are there examples for this?--CoincidentalBystander (talk) 12:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

so called popular democracies edit

wouldn't they techincally be non partision in nature? as they have banned all political parties, and their only party essenturally becomes the goverment? Such examples would be the USSR, other communist states, maybe even Lybia, and others.--184.77.10.72 (talk) 07:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

POV, sources edit

The article is practically unsourced! Selection of examples is random and concepts are unclear.

Some serious sources are necessary.

--peyerk (talk) 07:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)Reply


Nonsense article edit

This article fails to provide a single source for the general usage of this term. The few sources provided has nothing to do with the term "non-partisan democracy". Even the wording of the description of the term in the introduction is nonsensical, and the article goes on to set up a number of fictional scenarios, as a kind of evidence for the existence of this term, without any sources provided as to when these scenarios are supposed to occur.

This article is pure trash and is either a deliberate hoax or someones fixed ideas in the form of original research. --Saddhiyama (talk) 00:05, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

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A contradictory sentence edit

The sentence "De jure nonpartisan systems exist in several Persian Gulf states, including Oman and Kuwait; the legislatures in these governments typically have advisory capacity only,..." is a paradox. Legislatures have legislative capacity by the very definition of their name, otherwise they are no legislatures. I am not sure whether it is true, but maybe there are elected parliaments who have no legislative capacity, maybe the parliaments have only advisory capacity, and maybe the monarchs or their cabinets have the legislative capacity. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 08:01, 29 January 2022 (UTC) This may be non-partisan, but this is not democracy. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 08:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)Reply