Talk:Nirṛti

Queries

I don't know of this diety, as a female diety anyway, so would like to see some sources. Would the spelling be right, is that last consonant aspirated ('th' rather than 't')?. Also see discussion on Nirrta. Imc 21:22, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes this is spelt in different ways like Nirrti. --Bhadani 15:45, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

AS Valid! ---Powerprowess (talk) 10:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The Devanagari gives a long i as the last vowel, which is normal for a woman’s name, so I corrected it in the IAST transliteration: ı̄.

But further down, at "Pronunciation", the word is stated specifically to have three short syllables, which can’t be right. I don’t know where that came from, but I suggest removing that paragraph, if there’s no objections, that is...--Geke (talk) 21:37, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

All right: I checked a dictionary (should have done that before, of course) and it turns out that this particular female name does have a short vowel at the end. So I undid my earlier change, and you can ignore the stuff I wrote above here. --Geke (talk) 22:50, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Nirṛti (goddess) with Nirṛti (god)

Moved Discussion from Talk:Nirṛti (god)

The Dikpala's gender is also disputed; the goddess is said to be regent of south-western direction also.

• Apte
• Pustak.org
• The Reign of the Vedic Gods - Page 131
• Devlok - by Devdutt Pattnaik
• [1] Peyalvar says that asuras and rakshasas converge at the goddess' south-west corner
• Chnadra says "in later Hinduism, Nirrti changes sex and becomes a dikpala god"
• [2] Vastu book - south west

The Dikpala is generally portrayed male in temple sculpture, but is also described female in texts, linking her to the Vedic goddess. The Dikpala is variously referred to Rakshasa, Daitya, Nairriti, Nairrita also. IMO, we should have 1 article on various meanings of Nirrti, since there is ambiguity and the split - with goddess meaning the Vedic goddess and male meaning is Dikpala - is not justified. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

PS:

• p.114 - good link on iconography.
• [3] association with unasuspicious Mula Nakshastra
• [4] Goddess worship.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

@Redtigerxyz: The subject is disputed. In post-Vedic Mythology, the Vedic goddess Nirrti is present as the wife/daughter of Adharma and doesn't become male. Also, other sources in the articles (by Vettam Mani, Roshen Dalal, Danal Allenu, etc) mention the god and the goddess as separate..245CMR.•^👥📜 13:49, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ms Sarah Welch: Your views please.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Keep all in one article, for our reader's sake and for NPOV. Move Nirrti (god) -> Nirrti. There is much about the Vedic goddess and the dikpala in scholarly literature, which is what we should include, summarize and cite. See Kinsley's Chapter 1, Kramrisch's discussion on Rig Veda 1.117, 1.164, 10.36 as the opposite of Rta and goddess of death/decomposition, etc, and the publications of other scholars for a more comprehensive higher quality wiki-article. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:52, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

User:245CMR, Splitting was a WP:BOLD move; we have discussed the same and reverting it by merging the same. I will raise for a technical move to move the goddess article back to Nirrti.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:59, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Redtigerxyz, I've completed the move. There'd be some cleanup stuff left, please see that. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 17:09, 18 July 2021 (UTC)