Talk:Nina Derwael/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Edwininlondon (talk · contribs) 21:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Riley1012, I'm happy to review this in the next few days. I notice a lack of images. I assume you tried to find some but none with suitable rights exist? Edwininlondon (talk) 21:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the review. Unfortunately, there are no images available. -Riley1012 (talk) 00:18, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Prose

Although not riveting, the text does do the important things (neutral point of view, to the point). Coverage is good. Just some comments:

• normally there are no references in the lead. Is there a reason you have [1]?

  [1] is the reference for the date of birth per WP:DOB

  My interpretation of MOS:LEADCITE: only if the claim is likely to be challenged is a ref in the lead needed. I don't think that is the case here, am I right? The Early life section has the birthdate, sourced, so no need in the lead.

  Makes sense to me, I've removed the source from the lead. -Riley1012 (talk) 02:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

• Belgian --> the guideline is not to make country names links

   Done

• She is also the 2019 European Games champion on the balance beam as well as --> I'd put a comma before as well as

   Done

• all-around champion --> is there a good destination for this to be a link?

   Done added

• At the 2020 Olympics, she led team Belgium to their first-ever team final where they finished eighth --> given that the previous sentence was about Olympics in general and not gymnastics, I think this sentence needs a gymnastics somewhere

   Done

• the word "also" appears 3 times in the lead. In general it is hardly ever needed.

   Done

• is a former football player --> add professional and a link

  Added professional. Nico Derwael does not have a page on the English Wikipedia. Should I add Nico Derwael?

• link all the sports

   Done

• She began gymnastics --> should be a link and is there a reason why this is not artistic gymnastics, like in the lead?

   Done no reason, it's fixed now

• finished eighth in the all-around --> all-around should either be a link or explained

   Done link added

• eighth in the uneven bars event final --> uneven bars should be a link (see MOS:LINK

   Done

• uneven bars, balance beam --> link balance beam

   Done

• She represented Belgium at the 2016 Summer Olympics --> may I suggest you add where these were held?

   Done, I added it for 2020 Olympics too

• At the 2016 Games, did she do anything at the uneven bars individual event?

   Done She was the third reserve for the final. I added that information.

• overall, in the whole article, there are 16 cases of "then". Sometimes they are too close to each other (2017: First World medal has 5). See if you can rephrase or simply drop it.

   Done

• (Stalder to Tkatchev with 1/2 turn) --> any links here would help the user

   Done

• During the uneven bars final, Derwael scored 15.233, earning the gold medal and defending her World title on the uneven bars --> that's twice "uneven bars". One of them should suffice.

   Done

• on the third season Belgium's Dancing with the Stars --> I suspect there is an "of" needed before Belgium

   Done

Sources

Reliable sources. Formatting okay. Just these comments:

• The Competitive history section is missing references

   Done

• language=nl tag missing for source 1

   Done

• some Dutch sources miss a trans-title tag

   Done

• spotcheck: 1 2 28 37 38 54 88 all check out fine
• 9 doesn't quite tell me it is her debut. Is there another source to add?

  Would the source I added (10) suffice? It lists her competition scores and if you scroll down you can see 2013 Eilte Gym Massilia was the first one

  Yes, ok

• 89 suggests to me that we should probably add "shared with cyclist Wout van Aert"

  Wout van Aert won the Sports Man award and Derwael won the Sports Woman award

Media

Nothing with appropriate rights that can be added?

• Nope

That's all I could see. Overall, it looks good. Edwininlondon (talk) 21:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

• I believe that this now meets the GA criteria. Promoting. Too bad there is no appropriately licensed photo of her. I am no legal expert but perhaps someone who is can see if WP:FAIRUSE applies. I don't think so. Anyway, nice work overall, well done! Edwininlondon (talk) 13:19, 22 June 2022 (UTC)