Talk:Nina Demme/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Enwebb (talk · contribs) 14:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I'll take this one. I'll add some comments later today. Enwebb (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

General comments

• Avoid calling the subject (and others) by their first names alone (MOS:SURNAME)

Can you point to where the concern is? The only time I see reference to first name only is at her birth, where she was given only one name because the legalities of how to register her (and her siblings) hadn't been worked out. Sources are unclear as to why she was the only one of her siblings able to use forged documents to carry her father's surname, so it seemed important to point out that the surnames were different. SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Looks like her father is called just "Ludwig" here Ryabtsova, Ludwig, and her children... and Ludwig was fond of birds. If you want to avoid confusion with Nina Demme, you could use the full name?

 Done SusunW (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

• She was an illegitimate child of a polyamorous household which was made up of her father's first wife and nine children, and her mother and mother's children, who were Valya and Kolya by her first husband, a German surnamed Huber, and Nina, Julia, and Seryozha with her father. can you split this into two sentences? It's a bit long

 Done I broke it into 3 if that works. SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Inconsistency in whether or not you're using an oxford comma (a bit nitpicky, not necessary for GA criteria but just pointing it out)

I only found one instance where an Oxford comma was not used. Perhaps you can be more specific? SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

was a Russian polar explorer, biologist and ornithologist. I think that's all

 Done SusunW (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

• She was allowed to buy a summer house allowed by whom?

I would guess Soviet authorities? Private ownership was not allowed in the Soviet period, but stating who authorized her ownership would go beyond what sources provide, to my mind. SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough, thanks. Enwebb (talk) 02:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

• Nadezhda Krupskaya is identified as Lenin's wife in the lead but not in the body

 Done SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Might be nice to use {{convert}} for 5354 kg

 Done SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Still need to do image checks, but I'll come back to this tomorrow. Enwebb (talk) 03:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Enwebb Thank you so much for the review. I really appreciate it. The detailed photo analysis is on the talk page of the article, if that helps. Let me know if you need anything else or if I can help clarify anything. SusunW (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

So sorry, something urgent has come up in real life and I haven't had much time for Wikipedia. I hadn't realized the images were checked already on the talk page, so thank you for pointing that out. Enwebb (talk) 02:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

• and she married another of the scientists. no name for her second husband? Enwebb (talk) 02:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Would that I knew. The Australian article was the only one that gave any time frame for any of the marriages. The family remembrances (see Note 2) were that her husbands were Ganya, Petr, Vanya, and Volodya. If I were guessing, since they remembered Petr best, he was last. And given name similarity Ivanov was probably Vanya and Ioylev probably Ganya, making the unknown one Volodya somebody, but that would be pure conjecture. I couldn't find any documents, sorry. SusunW (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Totally get real life complications, it's been crazy here too with a major tropical storm, but we survived it intact. Again I thank you Enwebb for your willingness to review and help improve the article. SusunW (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, looks good to me! Clearly meets all the criteria. Enwebb (talk) 01:18, 13 June 2020 (UTC)