Talk:Nimbin, New South Wales
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editNimbin is a great place to discover yourself, through different culture.
Why did this need to be moved? Is there another Nimbin?
Nimbin, very appropriately, is the chemical name of a toxic substance found in some plants!
I'm sorry, why are you disputing the nuetrality of this article? Nimbin is a very significant town in Australian history and culture, for the very reasons mentioned. The article certainly needs to be cleaned up, and expanded to do justice to the wider history of the town. But I don't believe it is biased.
What aspects are into question?
Also, it seems like Nimbin is Australia's Vancouver/Amsterdam. Rock on.
This article is not so much biased, as it reads like it was typed in by some bleary-eyed hippy.
The article was moved because the Wiki standard is to name towns along with their state/province, unless there is some global significance which makes the place unique (eg. New York City or Melbourne.) And no, being the dope capital of Australia does not make it globally significant! --Jquarry 04:52, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
ps. I once drove thru Nimbin, at 8pm on a Saturday and it was DEAD!
- 8pm! of course, they were all greened-out and in bed! --Ballchef 13:35, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Over-emphasis of Cannabis
editI think this article places too much emphasis on Cannabis in the Nimbin community. While many Cannabis activists and users make Nimbin their home, there is also a lot more to Nimbin than Cannabis use. Historically Nimbin played a significant role as the counterculture capital of Australia, and that's a much bigger profile than Cannabis alone. Alternative culture had a huge influence on mainstream culture during the 1970s and 1980s. This is also reflected in the fact that the NSW State Library maintains what is called the 'Rainbow Archives', a specific archive for the alternative culture. In the more conservative mood that currently dominates Australia, there is a cringe factor in regards to alternative culture, but the reality is that Nimbin is historically significant. Once the Culture Wars are a thing of the past, we may view Nimbin with greater objectivity, but we are not there yet. In it's cultural dissidence style and its historical importance to Australia, Nimbin and the Aquarius Festival have parrallels to the Eureka Stockade. So my sugestion is to broaden the presentation of this article so it's not so Cannabis focused (reads too much like a promo for Mardigrass) and to raise the importance rating more in line with the NSW Sate Library.--user:John Moss 2 June, 2007.
- You have a point, but the name Nimbin is synonymous with the green weed. I live about a 40 minute drive from the place and I can assure you and anyone else that if you mention the word "Nimbin" to anyone in the Northern Rivers, the first thing they'll think of it is ganja. Hell, if you walk any length of time down what passes as Nimbin's main street, you'll get propositioned to buy some "smoko". But no, Nimbin to me is the gateway to places like Nightcap National Park, the Nimbin Rocks and other places of natural beauty, but you're on a hiding to nothing trying to have the place associated with anything other than ganja in the popular mindset. Peter1968 22:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Many places go through different stages, and Nimbin is no exception. My connection with Nimbin goes back many decades, and I've witnessed the changes on the street of the village firsthand. I went there in the 1970s when it was the icon of counterculture following the Aquarius Festival, when young idealistic university students and drop-outs were trying to pioneer an alternative lifestyle on communes along sustainable lines - a fascinating social experiment. To evaluate Nimbin's role in Australian history solely on the basis of the street scene now (the communes are actually in the hills around Nimbin, and are not viewed by cursary drive-threws at 8pm) would be like looking at Circular Quay and just saying its only a park and ferry terminal (maybe some people do say that). Maybe the popular mindset now does primarily associate Nimbin Village with ganja, but does that determine objective history? When the Acropolis was being broken-up for stone fences was that its only value? History is more than popular mindsets of the culture of the day. I think it's important that the Nimbin districts early significant role in experimental social and sustainable lifestyles comes to the fore if we are to accurately reflect history. Also, Wiki is more than a travelogue. User:John Moss 6 June, 2007.
- Ok, here's a suggestion for reformating this article.
- Given that Nimbin (both village and district) has played a significant historical role in the counterculture movement in Australia, taking a timeline approach is most probably the best way to approach the Nimbin entrant for Wiki. I'd like to suggest an article structure along these historical headings:
- Pre-European Australian Aboriginal hsitory. - Colonial History until 1972. - Aquarius Festival and commune movement. - Recent history.
- I'm not suggesting removal of the Cannabis focus entirely, but rather place it more under the 'recent history' heading. Any feedback? User:John Moss 8 June, 2007.
- Hi John. I dont think that you should delete any references what so ever to the cannibas culture because this is the reality of modern Nimbin. But do feel free to add to this article and provide sources. Something on Nimbins long history could be most informative. kind regards Mombas (talk) 09:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Bundjalung sign is unreadable.
editCan someone find a better copy of the sign in the native language. The one shown is unreadable as it is too far away. --Dmol (talk) 17:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- That's my fault - I took it with a crappy camera. I'm going to get an admin to delete it as it's rubbish. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll go up there again and take a much clearer picture. Peter1968 (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Dmol (talk) 21:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
How high is Nimbin?
editAn altitude problem - the 420 m is clearly a 4:20 joke, time to have an after school smoke. Nimbin is 65 metres above sea level. Seasalt (talk) 06:28, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Some locals welcomed the Police operation; others said it was 'overkill' while others said the Police didn’t go far enough
editthose are the three possible responses a person can make. ..... I found this sentence funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.195.201.89 (talk) 21:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Apparently Nimbin Rocks! added that entire section in November 2008. Problem is that it is almost entirely OR and the claims made dont match the sources he supplied yet no one has noticed lol. For example, in regards to that sentence above, the source said there was considerable vocal opposition to the police operation and in response the police claimed it was not overkill. Nowhere does the source say 'some locals welcomed the Police operation' and one unidentified woman critisized police "excuses" (for what it doesn't say) at a press conference which is the source for 'the Police didn’t go far enough.' I've cleaned it up a little but will finish sorting it out and find better references later.Wayne (talk) 20:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Richard - one of the original Aquarius Festival Mystics.
editHi. I live at uki now but my heart hasn't left Nimbin, since I went there as a little 16 year old child of the Australian Aquarius new age festival/lifestyle change back in early 1970s. I remember Richard, very strong connection to me, speaking words of insight that left me in awe back then, at the same time Paul Joseph was singing his mantra: "May the Long time Sun Shine
upon you, All Love surround you And the pure light within you Guide your way Home"
I was perhaps 10 years or more younger than all these Founding Fathers & I know Paul has gone but I've been wondering if Richard is still around Nimbin? Also does any one know if Paul Joseph's lady who sang with him is still there? I thought she was the most beautiful woman I'd ever seen in my life! Graceful, tall with long shining hair & a beautiful smile!
The only woman that held the top place in my life as a life figure to admire was a lady I knew from Melbourne days called Judy, a strong dark haired Aries woman. I never knew her last name but she was a healer & soothsayer & her partner name was Tim I think, who was the epitome of wise, new age wise beautiful man. My other memory of those decades was a couple, Richard & Boo. He was over 6foot & she was about 4' 10"- they were travellers Does anyone know who little Boo was? She was like an ethereal blonde tiny fairy! That was in the days of Thami Adams (& Greg) in Carlton, Melbourne & the Kuranda Commune north of Cairns in far North Queensland. Now all the hipsters are aging yuppies with large mansions dotted among the Tablelands & Kuranda hills, with years of fortunes coming, going & the occasional pot commerce has left them in luxurious homes with pure bred Arabs grazing in the manicured paddocks - they don't talk about where they came from & what we all once believed in.
I'd love to know where these star children are, for these are some of the souls who made me see Heaven on Earth & they made me who I am today. The sun rises in the East and follows to it's resting place in the west & thus a generation comes & goes & another one begins in it's place. Dear Richard, if you're still here Brother, I'm thinking of you today, Friday June 7th 2019. Two.dogz (talk) 21:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
I forgot to sign my name - sorry guys, it's Colleen Bateman Cure. If anyone knows where these star people are my email is c.bateman08@gmail.com Thankyou Teachers Two.dogz (talk) 21:52, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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