Talk:Nicolas-Charles Bochsa

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Into Nicolas Bochsa Judgesurreal777 23:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

His name's origine

What is "Bochsa"? Was he Czech origine? --Sheynhertz_געשׁ״ך 05:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure but I had wondered if there was a connection with Nicholas Sarkozy (full surname Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa). Arniep 09:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Bócsa is a small place in Hungary, originally Nagybócsa near Tázlár, south of Kecskemét http://www.1hungary.com/info/tazlar/. Arniep 10:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

From this page other variants of the name may be: Bócsa (3), Bocsa (4), Bocsai (1), Bócsai (1), Bocsák (9), Bocsán (2), Bocsan (4), Bocsán (2), Bocsan (1), Bocsán (3),Bocsár (1), Bócsár (1), Bocsáry (2), Bócsay (4),Bocsi (7), Bócsi (3), Bocsi (14), Bócsi (1), Bocsi (2), Bócsi (2), Bocsi (3), Bocsie (1),Bocska (9), Bocskai (26), Bocskár (2), Bocskar (1), Bocskár (1)Bocskay (44), Bõcskei (1), Böcskei (5), Bõcskei (3), Böcskei (6), Bõcskei (1), Böcskei (4), Bõcskei (1), Böcskei Nagy (1), Böcskey (9),Bocskói (1), Bocskoi (2), Bocskói (1), Bocskor (39), Bocsor (35), Bõcsy (1), Bocsy (2), Bocza (4), Boczai (2), Böcze (2), Bõcze (2), maybe others http://www.radixindex.com/surnameindex/surnameindex_bo.shtml. Arniep 10:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Köszönöm! but his name is bochsa [boksa]. Are you Hungarian? --Sheynhertz_געשׁ״ך 12:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

No, but I am sure that Bochsa is a variant of Bocsa (there is one of this spelling in the 1891 trade and industry directory of Hungary. Arniep 09:33, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Charles Bochsa (d 1821)

Also apparently a Charles Bochsa (b ca 1760 - 1821 or so), with an IMSLP entry. Relative? Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

(According to this at least, Charles was Nicolas-Charles' father. Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace

I've found a second obituary which identifies Bochsa's birthplace as Prague, Bohemia (in those days). It's The Late Chevalier Bochsa Empire, Sydney 9 January, 1856 (sourced to Gazette), at Trove. Bochsa was on tour with his paramour and partner of 17 years' duration, Anna Bishop. She clearly took a personal hand in the funeral arrangements, including commissioning the statuesque grave monument. It is inconceivable that the undertakers and press would not have consulted her on details for obituary and panegyric purposes. He is known to have moved to Paris as a young child, but an intimate companion like Bishop would have known his true birthplace. Admittedly not a fully-verified source, but surely preferable to the statements in French Wikipedia and the ADB which offer no verification whatever. Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 18:05, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

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Obsequies

Fixed link to Sydney Herald. Note: In 1856, it was not the Sydney MORNING Herald 60.240.70.52 (talk) 22:36, 6 April 2023 (UTC)