Talk:Nicki Scully

Re-creation

I voted to keep the original article on Nicki Scully. and I've just recreated it with more info and citations and stuff. I am interested in Shamanism, and even went through some of Michael Harner's system. I'm a fan of Castenada (though I know his stuff is fiction), and Nevill Drury, Stanley Krippner, Ralph Metzner, Stephen Larsen, Michael Plotkin, Rolling Thunder, Sun Bear, and a lot of diverse authors on Shamanism. I've gone to Starwood, Sirius Rising, Gathering of the Tribes, PSG, Stones Rising, and other paganfests, but I'm not a member of any groups or religions.

I've never tried to bring back an article, so I hope I'm doing this right. I think Nicki Scully is notable on her own merits, by virtue of her books, recordings, charity work, Rex Foundation grant, Jerry Garcia & Grateful Dead connections, her music group and performances, and mentions in books and zines. I hope you will agree. JuliusAaron (talk) 05:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Starwood Festival

I'm very glad to see this article back, however I'm going to delete the mention of Tribal Alchemy appearing at Starwood. That year she assembled a group of musicians already on site that she had worked with like Imani Buchanan of Rhythm Alive and Billy Woods of Seeds of Time and called them "Starwood Tribal Alchemy". Now there's a long tradition of artists who originated back-up groups creating different line-ups while keeping the same name, like Frank Zappa & the Mothers, Brian Auger's Oblivion Express, Stephen Kent's Trance Mission, and so on. However, there's no documentation for this; the literature only mentions Nicky Scully offering an invocation to Hathor. So unless and until ACE releases a CD and/or DVD of the performance with liner notes that explain all this, I can't see calling this a Tribal Alchemy appearance with no citation to back it up.

I'm also deleting the link to the Starwood speakers' roster showing Scully appeared that year used as a citation of the fact, just so Pigman's head doesn't explode. I'll include it here; it's a valid citation in my opinion, but he's often objected to links to the ACE site. The editor who put it there is not affiliated with ACE, so it's not COI. If someone tags this as "citation needed", he or anyone else is free to return it to the article. 1998 Starwood Festival Speakers’ RosterRosencomet (talk) 17:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Not Vanity Page

I've deleted the speedy delete tag. This is not a "vanity page consisting of references to self-published sources". Bear & Co. and Inner Traditions [1] is a respected publisher and NOT a vanity press, nor is it owned by the subject of the article. Scully's connection with Rock Scully and work with Jerry Garcia alone should make her notable. Her audio works have been produced by such companies as ACE and the Sahalie Publishing Co. [2], a non-profit organization existing for over 30 years and supported by the Rex Foundation. References to her can be found in books published by the University of Virginia Press, University of Oxford Press, St. Martin's Press, and elsewhere, by such notable authors as Paul Krassner and Robert Greenfield. Obviously not a vanity page. Rosencomet (talk) 15:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

So make those objections in the 'Articles nominated for deletion' section. Don't just delete the tag and justify it here. Its not a speedy delete, just a proposed delete, so no rush. Famousdog (talk) 12:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

... and I'm not claiming any conflict of interest between Scully and Bear & Co / Inner Traditions. I'm simply objecting to the fact that the citations on this page are all from websites that many would consider self-published and unreliable sources. Famousdog (talk) 12:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Bibliography

IMO, many of the edits on this article are too extreme. In particular, there is no reason to delete this author's bibliography. Rather than suffer accusations of COI because this author appeared at an event I help organize over 14 years ago, I hope some other editor will reinstate it (and perhaps review some of the other deleted material).Rosencomet (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Well, this is interesting. Bearing in light the discussions above that previously denied any conflict of interest in this article, it has been recently edited by a user called @Nicki Scully:. That doesn't really help to convince me that there is no COI here. Famous_dog (c) 07:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)