Talk:New York State Pavilion

A question regarding the "After the fair" Section of the Article.

I remember reading somewhere that in 1970 the New York State Pavilion's Tent of Tomorrow was converted into an ice skating rink, but I can no longer find the source article. If anyone can confirm this information, it should be added to the "After the fair" section of the article.

Also, in the article in the second sentence of the third paragraph of the "After the fair" section it says:

" Once the red ceiling tiles were removed from the pavilion in the late 1970s for safety reasons, the Texaco terrazzo floor map of New York State was subject to the elements of weather and was ruined."

I have read from the following website ( http://forgotten-ny.com/2003/07/worlds-fair-remnants/ ) that the ceiling tiles were mostly orange and blue, with some red tiles in it as well. If someone could correct this fact, that would be much appreciated.

Thanks for your help, MKluge Mkluge (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Information that should be added to the "Restoration plans" section of the article.

In the "Restoration plans" section of the article, when it talks about the restoration efforts that began in 2008, it leaves out the efforts of a group of volunteers who started repainting the New York State Pavilion's Tent of Tomorrow in 2009, a project, called the "New York State Pavilion Paint Project", which is still ongoing. The website is ( http://nyspproject.com/ ). I believe that someone should add this information to the article.

Also, I think it is worth mentioning that the $5.8 million, referenced in the first sentence of the last paragraph of the section,

( "In July 2014, the pavilion received about $5.8 million for restoration." )

will be used to install a new staircase in each of the observation towers, and to replace the concrete platforms that support each of the observation towers, as well as install a new electrical system on all three observation towers. The article that I sourced this information is at the following website ( http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/world-fair-relic-set-extensive-restoration-article-1.1847082 )

Thanks for your help, MKluge Mkluge (talk) 01:00, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Other uses

At least one other use is missing. Around 1969 to 1971, there was a series of rock concerts held in the pavilion. I saw the Grateful Dead, Santana (one of their first NY appearances), Joe Cocker and Procol Harem there. There were probably others as well. I've added a reference to this in the main article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markssss (talk • contribs) 20:12, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 00:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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The New York State Pavilion

• ... that the New York City government once rejected Sidney Lumet's offer to repair the New York State Pavilion while filming The Wiz? Source: Rosenfeld, Neill S. (June 10, 1984). "Old Structures Find New Uses at Queens Fair Site". Newsday. pp. 2, 25.
  • ALT1: ... that the New York City government once had to hire mountain climbers to fix a light on the New York State Pavilion? Source: Grace, Melissa (February 8, 2007). "Flush Boss Out of Park, Sez World's Fair Group". New York Daily News. p. 1.
  • ALT2: ... that the New York State Pavilion, one of the most popular attractions at the 1964 World's Fair, later stored hazardous waste? Source: 1964–1965 New York World's Fair New York State Pavilion (PDF) (Report). National Register of Historic Places, National Park Service. October 9, 2009. p. 21; Newton, Edmund (July 11, 1979). "Survey Finds More Park Chemicals". Newsday. p. 23Q.
  • ALT3: ... that the New York State Pavilion, one of the most popular attractions at the 1964 World's Fair, later became a theater and roller-skating rink? Source: 1964–1965 New York World's Fair New York State Pavilion (PDF) (Report). National Register of Historic Places, National Park Service. October 9, 2009. p. 21; Layton, Preston (August 21, 1972). "Ask City to Get Rolling on a Rink". New York Daily News. p. 307; Chandler, Doug (April 26, 2004). "Queens Theatre in the Park, They Have Their Acts Together, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park Playhouse Will Celebrate Its 10th Anniversary With a Gala, and Organizers Plan to Build Upon Its Success". Newsday. p. A30.
  • ALT4: ... that Heineken once organized a fundraiser to renovate a floor in the New York State Pavilion? Source: Walker, Ameena (May 4, 2017). "New York State Pavilion fundraising campaign seeks to restore terrazzo floor". Curbed NY
  • Reviewed: Quintonil
  • Comment: I may propose more hooks later.

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 654 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 14:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I prefer ALT2 as the most dramatic and interesting. All of the hooks check out so up to the promotor which to use. Article went from 1000 to 7,816 words so more than 5x expansion. Lightburst (talk) 14:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 01:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 04:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I'll take this one. This will be the last of your nominations I review for a few weeks to ensure variety in reviewers. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 04:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

General comments

Adding content as I go.

Finished this up. Not many things noted, mainly clarifications. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see you were on holidays. No rush, have a go at it when you get back. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:31, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

@Rollinginhisgrave, no problem. Actually, I can take a look at these right now - I still have some internet access. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Prose and contents

• Fashion firms had asked the state government for permission to stage fashion exhibits in the Tent of Tomorrow in November 1962 They wanted to use it in 1962 or asked in 1962?
  • They asked in 1962. I've changed this. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• The Tent of Tomorrow hosted concerts and fashion shows[45][46] and was one of two locations (along with the Better Living Center) where fashion shows were staged. repetition of fashion shows
  • Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Hundreds of civil rights activists organized a sit-in at the pavilion during the opening ceremony and were arrested. because of the underemployment of African Americans?
  • I don't think the protests were about the underemployment of African Americans specifically. It was part of a larger civil-rights protest targeting the World's Fair. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Tent of Tomorrow's decaying map Introduce the map here.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• all of these plans were canceled due to the high cost of restoration. Did the proposals make it into the planning stage?
  • They did not. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Should be changed from saying there were plans if they were just proposals, especially since proposals can't be "cancelled" Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 18:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• The feasibility study was completed in the late 1990s, while the rest of the pavilion continued to rot.[145] redundant that the rest of the pavilion degraded while the study was being completed. What were the conclusions?
  • I actually had another look at the source - they were still working on the study at the time. (Later sources don't explicitly mention this study, but they do mention several other proposals, such as the 2001 aviation-museum proposal that's mentioned in the article. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• known during the World's Fair Block 46 as Block 46?
  • Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Several small planters were also placed around the map. In 2019 or originally?
  • I've clarified this - it was part of the original design. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Indiana's mural tricked some visitors into believing that the Theaterama was a restaurant, so the lights on his mural had to be turned off. could you clarify what this means?
  • I've reworded this as well. Basically, the words "Eat" tricked people into thinking that they could actually eat there. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• The modern theater's entrance is through the "nebula" structure and this as well. Does it just mean a ring?
  • The "nebula" is the informal name of the annex that was built in the 2000s. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Suggestions

• Use pronouns in the discussion of the mezzanine to avoid repetition.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Sources

Spot check

1) In the years immediately after the fair, the Tent of Tomorrow hosted events such as a judo competition. Y

2) and a local company offered to pay $6 million to renovate the tent into a roller rink. Y

3) UCF began scanning the pavilion that June. Y

4) Each cable measures 2.5 inches (6.4 cm) thick. Y

5) Supposedly as retribution for the removals, Warhol created silkscreened portraits of Robert Moses, to which Johnson objected. Y

Other

• Images appropriately tagged Y
• Stable Y
• Neutral Y
• COPYVIO/OR Y
• Broad in its coverage Y

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I've now addressed all the issues you brought up. Epicgenius (talk) 17:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Just one point about plans/proposals left. I won't hold up the review and just pass it, if you can address it how you see fit when you have the time. Thanks for another easy review. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 18:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

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