Talk:New Year's Eve/Archive 1

Watch Night Redirection

In Scotland Watch Night is infact Christmas Eve, and is an old tradition of waiting for St Nicholas. Please can you alter the page to correct this mistake —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cj136uk (talk • contribs) 09:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

New Year's Kiss

In my area of the US, the New Year's Kiss is a core part of the New Year's Eve traditions, yet no mention of it at all here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissing_traditions#New_Years_Kiss

I've seen a survey on the New Years Eve kiss in Australia and types of kisses on NewYearsEve.com.au 122.107.188.154 (talk) 08:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC) NYE

Ecuador... Unique?

Rather than Ecuador, I would say those (Except for the one of the Widow) are, up to my own knowledge (Which thus rather stay mute 'bout the widow thing; it could be osberved among other of my compatriots), not unique to Ecuador as I've observed them as an old well-rooted tradition in Perú and I would say it is so for most if not all South America, or at least the zones between northernmost south America and south America's Paraguay/Uruguay)... Venezuela's entry makes mentions of similiarities to what is practiced in Spain, yet those indicate even stronger simliarities between what is practiced in Venezuela and what is practiced in Peru (Or at least in Lima, Peru and Limeans' in-country destinations, most along the coast)... But I'm no sociologist... Just someone with conflicting first-hand experience and enough common sense to doubt nationalistic BS about any country's uniqueness whatsoever... Thus, I call true experts to add their own part to this... With "0believable" sources Undead Herle King (talk) 07:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge

For discussion of merger with/to/from New Year's Day, see Talk:New Year's Day

--Mark Adler (Markles) 19:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. Why should two holidays 364 days apart within a single year get the same page? New Year's Eve is a holiday in its own right. It is a celebration of the culmination of 365/366 days worth of events. New Year's Day is a celebration of a new start, if such a thing exists. One is an ending while the other is a beginning. Christmas Eve is part of Christmas, but New Year;s Eve is not. Bsd987 04:49, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

"Why should two holidays 364 days apart within a single year get the same page?" -- Haha, way to try and make your argument stronger. You didn't consider them being two days following each other? But that wouldn't as strongly have supported you, of course. Anyway, as for the "why", I think it's mostly because New Year's Eve is referenced in the other article both in the subsection and in the article text as well. I wouldn't oppose a merge because both days deal with the celebration of a new year starting -- the other by saying goodbye to the past, and the other saying hello to the new. It's undeniably two events closely related to each other, and not exactly like easter and christmas. -- Jugalator 14:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

After looking at the Wikipedia tradition of dividing up articles on days regardless their strong relationships, I guess this one should for that reason be separated. However, I then wish there'd at least to be some sort of visualized strong connection to these New Year, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day. For example by the navigation box showed on the other talk page. -- Jugalator 14:47, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree with the idea. Granted, they are 364/365 days apart, but the holidays are tied because they are one day after the next. That's like suggesting that there shouldn't be an article about the weekend because Saturday is the end of the week and Sunday is the start of the week. It shouldn't be merged with the New Year topic. That has nothing to do with the holiday, but what cultures celebrate their New Year. Rosh Hashanah has nothing to do with New Year's Eve or New Year's Day. The topic name should be changed to something other than just New Year.

I wholly disagree with that notion. The legitimate celebration and holiday within itself falls on the December 31; January 1 witholds no televised broadcast coverage such as 31 December, no celebration is held for 1 January, and the sole purpose why January the first is a federal holiday is due to the fact that all those whom of which celebrated on the 31st of December would be incapable of functioning the following day. New Year's Eve should in no way be merged with that of January 1 --if anything, New Year's Day should be merged with New Year's Eve considering the celebration in itself occurs on the 31st. -- Salluste 13:53, 31 December 2005 (EST)

This would be like merging the April 14th article with the april 15th article! December 29th and January 1st are two completley different days, and new years eve and new years day are two different holidays. So let's keep them that way!

Simply, MP

I strongly disagree with merging the two articles. As others have mentioned, the two articles cover completely different subject matter, and a merge together would do a disservice to both. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Everyone else is saying disagree, but I would like to see the two merged. I know that this violates precedent (e.g.: Christmas Eve and Christmas Day), but I would like to see those articles merged as well. It all depends on the policy for such articles in the future, but, based on precedent now, I very weakly disagree. D. Wo. 22:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I also disagree. Most of the celebrating occurs on New Year's Eve. It is a separate event to New Year's Day and the latter article is nothing like the former one. Each contains a link to the other page and tht should be enough. -- Pejhman 14:04, 02 January 2006 (EST)

I strongly disagree. The 2 articles do not need to be merged. They are 2 seperate entities.

To the mindless... Who the hck celeberates a new year eve WITHOUT celebrating a new year day? Make your brain work dIeQews! Its a liminal celebration of what's being left behind and what's coming, that's why it starts on the 31 and finishes on the 1st... Its nothing like merging the article on events that have occured on a 31 with those occuring the 1st; There the parameters that define the range do make a functional distinction between oen day and the next... with New Year celebrations having the last and the first day of the adjacent years as equally important halves of a celebration whose climax is at the 12:00 PM of the 31st and at the 00:00 hrs of the 1st, two horus that are the same with different reckoning... And to MP, check well, between the 29 and the 1st, when the later belongs to January and the former to December... Is the 30th and the 31th... Just too much for a celebration... "Eve" and "day" would just deserve subsection ina merged article... By the way Salluste... Do you really see people saying "oh well, it's 12:01 am of the 1st... I'm overcelebrating!!! I gonna leave now"??? Do you see it? I doubt you do! The celebration lasts until 6:00 am approx (unles you are an early sleeper)!! When you post in here people... Make arguments, not what you do in your potty trainingUndead Herle King (talk) 07:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Other

"Moreover in Berlin, the largest New Year's Eve celebration in all of Europe, is celebrated by more than 1,234,567 people attending the festivities each year." - 1,234,567 looks quite random...

Or rather suspiciously non-random, I suppose you mean.65.213.77.129 (talk) 18:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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I propose a brief discussion about the origin of celebrating new year's eve in that particular date (the end of gregorian calendar), and about its relation to Christmas —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.148.77.158 (talk) 02:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC).

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Nomenclature

As I write this inquiry on December 5, 2006, i wonder-- will my next possible opportunity to celebrate be properly entitled New Year's Eve 2006, or New Year's Eve 2007? I'm inclined to say NYE 2007, because it will take place on the eve of the year 2007, and therefore, the 2007 New Year's Eve (i.e. "The New Year's" possessive, assuming there is collective agreement that every New Year does in fact possess its own “Eve”). Historically speaking, what is correct? For Scholoars of Chronology, is there a common dispute with that of the Public Media in regard to this issue?

My closing inquiry might be equally compelling, and its answer equally elusive as a singular answer to the proposition further above which asks whether the traditional Celebration, occurring annually on the Eve of every New Year (or to be less biased, the celebration occurring annually on every Dec. 31), is it topically identical to that of the beginning of a new year, or is New Year's Eve the same subject matter as New Year's Day?. Dependent upon that answer or not, i ask the reader if it is the passing of this crazy, kookie year of 2006 that we celebrate, or is it the coming of the New? If Auld Lang Syne essentially references "the goold old days", then are we not in fact saying goodbye more than we are hello? Are the Holiday and the Celebration in essence contradictory of one another?
Jsabarese 01:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Big Ben isn't a clock

The article says 'England celebrates the New Year by either waiting for Big Ben, or another clock to strike 00:00:00'. This creates the impression that Big Ben is a clock; it's not it's a bell. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say 'England celebrates the New Year by either waiting for the chimes of Big Ben, or for a clock to strike 00:00:00.'

12 midnight, or 12 am would probably sound better as it makes it sound less like a digital clock. Anyway 'strike' implies that the clock is indicating the time with bells, which only happens on the hour (or half-hour) meaning it's redundant to indicate the seconds.--Jcvamp 05:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC) big ben is not a clock it is a bell it is in a clock base tower so people think that it is a clock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.105.124 (talk) 00:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Most people in germany who get it wrong actually think that Big Ben is the Tower itself. :) I never heard anyone saying that it's the clock.--210.225.86.130 (talk) 05:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

pov

saying that Sydney is the first major place to see new years eve is a joke. What about cities in New Zealand or other places in the Pacific?--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 10:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

how many of those places have crowds of 1.2 million and 300,000 international visitors? Perhaps the wording could be adjusted to be more precise, but it is hard to deny that Sydney has the first major NYE celebration each year. --144.131.67.249 14:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

See Sydney Bias down below...

Pagan origins?

What about its pagan origins, such as expelling the old year's evil spirits or demons by loud noise and fire?

Chinese mythology doesn't deserve to be degraded "paganic"..--84.249.253.201 00:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Weasel words

A large volume of writing for this article concerning sydney has weasel words.

See Sydney bias down below... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.191.233.161 (talk) 02:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC).

Sydney Bias

This article has a strong bias towards sydney and needs to be changed. It may be the first major city to see the new year but ist not the only major city to see the new year.

I agree. Some of the Sydney information has been removed. -- tariqabjotu 03:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

It's also arguable if Sydney is the first major city to see the new year. It depends on your definition of a major city. I consider Auckland a major city and we saw New Year of two hours ago, before Sydney. Of course the celebrations here are rather poor but that's an issue for a different discussion :-P Nil Einne 02:28, 1 January 2007 (NZDT UTC+13)

Totally correct, Sydney is not the first major city to bring in the New Year, and it's rediculous to place so much emphasis on who is the first, etc. I added a section on Melbourne and explained why the fireworks here don't rival Sydney's, and added a section on other cities in Australia like Brisbane and Perth. If Sydney want to explode 4 million dollars every new year thats fine by me, its not my money, but don't gloat so much about it, some countries are in debt. I recomend that "Sydney New Year's Eve celebrations" get it's own article and provide a summary in this article with a link to the main article. - User:Nick carson(Sorry I'm not logged in)

hey guys, i've nominated it for a POV check as it reads like a tourism board advertisement. I live in Edinburgh, which has a massively famous new years celebration but i wouldnt expect the advertisement sydney seems to get. also, it says there are numerous media sources and cites none of them. dont feel i know enough to edit it without my own bias.... i'm at uni and hence not logged in but i'm ((User:Lukeyboymcr)) . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.149.99 (talk) 14:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

hey sory, ive logged in now but dont know how to do all this signing stuff. i'm going to re-arrange the countries into alphabetical order, as new zealand being first seems a simple attempt to try to outdo australia. also suggestion removing all the detail of sydneys celebration from the australia description, giving a general overview of the country and a link to a more detailed article. could be the standard way with other

countries and cities too. Lukeyboymcr —Preceding comment was added at 14:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

seems as someone keeps removing my POV checks, i think also someone changed the sydney bit to be less biased and it has been changed back. anyway, to bring it into line with other countries i am removing sydney and melbourne. if anyone wants to make them seperate articles and link to them from the australia description that would fit with the standardisation. lukeyboymcr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.255.254 (talk) 21:46, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

ey im signed in now. tht previous comment was me !touch of light, please don't revert as its clearly pov. it should be similar tot he rest of the countries, and if it deserves that much merit should have another article like australian new years celebration. not showing massive bias in the context of new years internationallyLukeyboymcr

Canada

I'm sorry to butt in and say so but the section near the beginning on new year's eve in Canada is just innaccurate, plain and simple. I live in Montreal and nothing that is mentioned there is remotely close to anything anyone I've ever met traditionally does on New Year's eve in this city except the part about drinking. a "typical" NYE would be drinking with friends at a party, or maybe a family party, but usually (people 18-25 at least) celebrate by throwing house parties and getting hammered... and that's not just me it's pretty much the whole city.

I've modified that, mentioning that Canadian celebrations are highly influenced by their American counterparts in major metropolitan areas and such ViperSnake151 16:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I have a question

When we use expressions like "New Years Eve 2001" do we mean Dec 31st 2000 or Dec 31st 2001? It seems like an ambigious term. Are we saying it is the eve of 2001 (i.e. Dec 31st 2000) or are we saying that it's 2001 now and it's New Year's Eve (i.e Dec 31st 2001)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.158.253.8 (talk) 23:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC). howmuch dose the firework display cost —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.159.105.124 (talk) 00:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Very Important

New Years Eve Is My Birthday!!!!! --72.220.167.138 01:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC) ==Very Important== MEXICO IS INCORRECT!

MEXICO ENTRY FOR NEW YEARS IS INCORRECT.

THEY DO NOT EAT GRAPES IN MEXICO. THAT IS A CUBAN TRADITION. NOT ONE DONE IN MEXICO. PLEASE GET IT CORRECTED. CUBANS AND MEXICANS ARE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CULTURE WITH DIFFERENT TRADITIONS, FOODS, ACCENTS LANGUAGE AND HERITAGE. PLEASE CORRECT THAT ENTRY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.181.195.8 (talk) 14:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate links removed

I took out the entire external links section as it appeared to me to be nothing but spam. Here is the list:

• NycNewYears.com - Listing of New York City nightclub New Years Eve parties in the Time Square as well as around manhattan
• nyemontreal.com - Listing of New Year's Eve parties in Montreal Canada's party capital
• ThisNewYearsEve.com - Listing of New Year's Eve parties in the UK
• YearsEve.com - Listing of New Year's Eve news in the US
• NewYears.com - Listing of New Year's Eve parties in the US and Canada
• NewYearsEveCentral.com - Largest producer of New Year's Eve events in New York City
• NewYearsParty.com.au - Australia's biggest list of New Years Party's and events.
• Sydney New Year's Eve - Official Sydney New Year's Eve website.
• Merry Christmas to all

Any objections? __meco (talk) 09:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion

"In South Korea, a huge bell at Jongro is traditionally rung by the mayor of Seoul and other political figures at the stroke of midnight. Koreans eat Ddukgug (떡국) which is a soup containing rice cakes (떡). "

Can you please also add to the list of links the Jewish new year? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_Hashanah) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.239.4 (talk) 04:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Surely this line is "inappropriate"?

"In Lebanon, people celebrate the New Year's Eve by the use of firearms, in an inappropriate manner"

is this actual vandalism, or just a poor choice of words?Warchef (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

yes - i wondered about this when I read it - I got the impression that gunshots are used in Lebanon to celebrate but, in keeping with the entries for other countries, I believe that 'firearms' has perhaps been used incorrectly in place of 'fireworks'. Please correct me if I'm wrong however. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.251.234.155 (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Sydney

I have just seen the Sydney bias section above. I am considering, to prevent this happening again, and to have a more detailed piece about Sydney, creating an article for Sydney's NYE celebrations. Any ideas what to name it? -- Whiteandnerdy111 (talk) 20:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What about Italy?

Does anybody know what Italians usually do for New Year's Eve? Once I was in Venice at the end of the year, and I saw beautiful fireworks at night. They called it "The night of Saint Silvester". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.25.5.144 (talk) 20:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

External links revisited

Hello. I removed all of the external links from the See Also section [1]. To me, none of them seemed appropriate according to WP:EL and all looked like spam. Many of the links were the same ones that were removed a few topics up. Any objections to this removal? Thanks. Apparition11 (talk) 11:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

UK

As the list title suggests this page describes localised celebrations of new years eve through out the world. As such I would suggest that the UK scetion be split up itno its separate countries to reflect the diversity between the different celebrations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.175.144 (talk) 01:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be all very well, but the separate English & Scottish sections had absolutely nothing in them to indicate any diversity. If they ever do we can think about splitting the UK article then. As it is, I suspect the diversity is indicated in the Hogmanay article. Splitting the section also effectively removed Wales & N.Ireland from the picture. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 22:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Israel

Israel as listed among the countries where this day is called Silvester. Is this the case? Is it only among the Christians (about 2% of the population according to Israel#Religion)? It seems unlikely to me that the Jewish or Moslem Israelis would use that term but I have no actual knowledge of this. DHR (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is like that. Its weird, but in Israel we call it "Silvester". No good reason, and the name kind of lost its meaning over the years, so no one really knows or cares about the person Silvester or who he was (accept chain letters writes, who loves to tell the story about Jewish people celebrating a "christian holiday"). I dont know about the Moslems, but Jewish Israelis call this day "Silvester". -STYU

Entry for Kosovo removed? (restored now, assuming vandalism)

I noticed Kosovo was removed altogether on 3 December 2009, without any clear reason? I guess we should revert that? It was added on 15:16, 18 October 2009. --Avbentem (talk) 20:34, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE: I don't know if the section on Kosovo is accurate, but without any reason on WHY this was deleted: I think the note on celebrating for 3 days sounds interesting enough by itself to restore the whole section. So, I undid the removal. --Avbentem (talk) 17:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Russia

The part about Russia is totally inappropriate and contains obscenity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.124.114.38 (talk) 19:02, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the entire section. It was uncited and looked like hoax material, but you'd probably need to understand Russian to see that. Thanks for pointing it out. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 19:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

China Section

If a moderator could please remove the profanity in the China section, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.133.134.2 (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Done, there were a series of vandalism edits, but they've been reverted. Thanks for pointing it out. Just so you know, you don't have to be a moderator or anything to edit, anyone can. Cheers! Apparition^{11 Complaints}/Mistakes 22:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Celebratory Gunfire in Urban areas?

I see in the section on U.S. celebrations there is mention of celebratory gunfire, pointing out specifically major urban areas. I live in Virginia and in my knowledge it's not the cities, but the rural areas where people use guns to celebrate (and usually alcohol is involved). Can anyone provide a reference, justifying the urban comment? If not, I say take that part out because it occurs in many different areas. -Eaglescout1984 13:35, 28 December 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eaglescout1984 (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure I can find a citation but I can say from personal experiences people do celebratory gun fire in urban areas for pretty much all secular holidays and I cannot speak for rural because I've never been in a rural location durring a holiday--209.181.16.93 (talk) 21:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

What may sound like gunfire could be fireworks. Eaglescout1984's slander of rural Virginia should be removed as offensive and elitist. Neither of us live in rural Virginia, but he has the audacity to assert that those who do fire off guns after consuming alcohol. While he wants proof of urban gunfire, he takes it as fact for rural Virginia. Apparently, Eaglescout1984 thinks alcohol consumption, too, is limited to the hinterlands of the Commonwealth. Good grief.Traditional Catholic (talk) 15:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Where does 2010 hit first? Great Britain?

I am planning to celebrate New Years with my grandson's and want to celebrate the first New Year's celebration and hopefully after seeing people cheer for 2010 be able to call it 2010 and toot our horns and break a pinata and go to bed (hopefully a few hours before New Years actually strikes Michigan, USA. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.21.169.5 (talk) 21:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Staying at home

Is this section really needed? I don't feel like it adds particularly to the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by McAdams Christopher (talk • contribs) 00:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC) ==

Religious Communities

"Many religious communities have a tradition of New Year's Eve being known as "Watch Night"....Though held by some to have begun in the African American community, watch night can actually be traced back to a sect of Christians known as the Moravians who held the first Watchnight Service in Herrnhut, Saxony, in 1732. The practice was later adopted by John Wesley, the founder of Methodism." This citation is attributed to Snopes. Snopes asserts Watch Night originated with the Moravians and was adopted by the Methodists. Snopes provides a link to the Moravian website where a search for “Watch Night” found nothing. A search for “1733,” the year Snopes asserts Watch Night originated found only a reference to a Moravian expedition to St. Croix http://www.moravian.org/publications/moravian/back_issues/2006/2006_0910_covenant.phtml . The Methodists flatly contradict Snopes claiming Wesley originated it. http://www.interpretermagazine.org/interior.asp?ptid=43&mid=11612 So, at most Watch Night is observed by Methodists and some black churches. That makes the use of the term "many religious communities" suspect. It's not observed by Roman Catholics & other Christians, Jews, Moselems, Hindus, etc. Snopes puts the Moravian connection as 1733, not 1732 as in this Wikipedia entry. I've contacted Snopes challenging its posting. I recommend modifying the entire entry to read: "United Methodists and black Protestant churches have a tradition of New Year's Eve known as "Watch Night". The faithful of the community congregate in worship services commencing New Year's Eve night and continuing past midnight into the new year. Watch Night is a time for giving thanks for the blessings of the outgoing year and praying for divine favor during the upcoming year. Though held by some to have begun in the African American community, watch night can actually be traced back to John Wesley, the founder of Methodism. Watch Night took on special significance to African Americans on New Year's Eve 1862, however, as slaves anticipated the arrival of January 1, 1863, and Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation Proclamation. (Sources: http://www.interpretermagazine.org/interior.asp?ptid=43&mid=11612 and http://www.wsbrec.org/blackfacts/WatchNight.htm ) This particular New Year's Eve became known as "Freedom's Eve.""Traditional Catholic (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

country name should start with capital letter

India is written as india in the top link section and even in the heading section of middle

There is no important tradition of ice fishing in Canada for new year. Seem irrevalent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.58.61.75 (talk) 05:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Example Images

In the section "Former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia," the two images are

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Anyone know what they're supposed to be? --68.183.53.190 (talk) 06:13, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism only, removed. Tbhotch^{™ ©} Happy New Year 06:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Add info about Colombia

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Colombia

Colombians celebrate New Year's Eve with fireworks in every city you can find several places to enjoy the night with drinks, foods or just looking at sky. Some families usually at 00:00 take their suitcases and carry with these walking around their neighbourhood. Also, someones take 12 grapes and just before new year eating one to one. Others make dolls which symbolize the baddest things in the old year, and at night its burned in a bonfire.

173.35.235.113 (talk) 07:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Move (or remove) "Staying at home"

Section 3 "Staying at home" really doesn't deserve to be a top-level section. The study referred to was conducted only in the U.S.A, so it is not globally applicable. I would argue that it should either be moved under appropriate country section, or possibly removed altogether.

Hannumk (talk) 08:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I support removing it altogether. In fact, I will remove it right now. This lousy t-shirt (talk) 09:12, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Bosnia and Herzegovina

In Bosnia and Herzegovina, New Year's Eve is usually celebrated with families or with friends. It is commonly celebrated at specially organized events in hotels and restaurants. In Sarajevo and other major cities the New Year's Eve is celebrated outdoors on government-organized events which feature famous singers and performers, concluded with fireworks. Shortly after midnight, people usually start calling their distant friends and relatives to wish them a happy New Year. It is also common that people take short walks through main walking street of every city, meeting friends and relatives and wishing them well. New Year's Eve is celebrated with large fireworks displays throughout the country, especially in the cities. People over 18 are allowed to buy fireworks, which are sold by local stores or by private persons. While watching or lighting up fireworks at midnight, people usually drink beer or wine. Digibih (talk) 09:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Brazil

In the Brazil section, the wearing white is meant to bring peace, not good luck. And a considerable amount of people wear yellow (meaning wealth). Another of the brazilian traditions is to throw flowers at the ocean and to jump over the waves (sends bad spirits away). I personally find the Fortaleza section not very important compared to other cities of Brazil. Please consider these thoughts. jeihot (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.16.229.66 (talk) 12:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Also

Once again, the Wikipedia authorities deny editing privilege to "non-experts," since they know all. I was unaware that New Year's Eve was the last day of the GREGORIAN calendar: does not the Julian calendar also sport a 31st of December?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.141.194 (talk) 14:56, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

New Year in mexico

The mexican new year article is all wrong, hog is not a spanish word, neither is hogmanay used in mexico (it comes from scottland as far as i know)... from what i can see the middle paragraph is totally made up, could someone delete that paragraph and all the references to hogmanay? obviously someone vandalized it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.132.102.26 (talk) 16:35, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Moliere2101050, 31 December 2010

Already done The entry for Mexico New Year's Eve is incorrect and needs to be rewritten. A suggested revision follows:

Mexicans celebrate New Year's Eve usually with family and friends. It is a tradition to avail guests of at least 12 grapes, and "down" these with each of the twelve chimes of the bell during the New Year's countdown (transmitted by radio, TV, or following ringing bells from a nearby church), while making a wish with each swallowed grape. There are several other customs that vary across regions and social strata. For example, some might make a list of all the bad or unhappy events from the expiring year; before midnight, this list is thrown into a fire, symbolizing the removal of negative energy from the new year.[4] At the same time, thanks are expressed for all the good things had during the year so that they will continue to be had in the new year.[27]

Most Mexicans celebrate by having a late-night gathering/dinner with their families and friends. The choice of meal varies greatly across regions and social strata. Street festivities are common. In Mexico City there is a large street festival on New Year's Eve; celebrations center around the "Zocalo" (main square). You can expect grandiose displays of fireworks and sparklers. At midnight, amidst noise and fireworks, everyone shouts: "Feliz Año Nuevo." People embrace and make noise and set off firecrackers. Moliere2101050 (talk) 17:45, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

England Section mistake

On the England Section "In 2010, more than 200,000 people across the UK gathered to view the seven-and-a-half minute display of firework above the London Eye.[2].[16]"

It should be "In 2009,..." the 2010 New Years Eve event has not occured yet, (217.207.203.90 (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2010 (UTC))

 Done Tbhotch^{™ ©} Happy New Year 20:19, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

confusing articles

New Year and New Year's Eve and New Year's Day all seem quite mixed in what is covered in the different languages and cultures covered. Maybe some editors could look at this so that the articles are clearer and link better as would be found in a regular encyclopedia. Also listing every country in the world what it does for "new year" times can be be quite legnthy and the way this is structured now it is turning into such a list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.96.60 (talk) 20:43, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 68.7.110.177, 1 January 2011

Already done Please change "The Irish call New Year's Eve New Year's Eve, or in Irish - Oíche Chinn Bliana, Oíche na Coda Móire or Oíche Chaille" to "The Irish call New Year's Eve 'New Years Eve' or, in Gaelic, 'Oiche Chinn Bliana, Oiche na Coda..." because the traditional Irish language is called Gaelic.

68.7.110.177 (talk) 07:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Australia (to do)

please insert: There a three New Year's Eve in Cameron Corner, because it's in the corner of three (!) time zones.

Australische Zeitzonen im südlichen Sommer

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.211.200.143 (talk) 11:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Canada

The section for Canada contains a series of mistakes and needs my help. Meanwhile please be aware that the information for Canada and USA is written with a biased point of view and is not necessarily accurate. I'll attend to it as soon as possible but if an available WikiGnome or WikiDragon gets there first, please go ahead! This lousy t-shirt (talk) 22:56, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

No dishes are smashed in Denmark

The fact that Danes smash or have smashed dishes and placed them on the front door of friends is not true. The citation is from an Australian site which holds no references. I have seeen other foreign sites citing or re-using wikipedia, but no Danish pages mention this, and no one in Denmark ever heard of this tradition. Either there needs to be a more thourough citation which proves me wrong or it should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.169.9.14 (talk) 14:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of Scotland?

It seems strange to me that although England and Wales have entries in the European section, there is no mention of Scotland, where the "Hogmanay" celebrations often outshine those of Christmas and the Scottish song "Auldlangsyne" is still traditionally associate with the new year. Why is there no mention of this?109.155.176.230 (talk) 10:14, 5 December 2011 (UTC)Jim Bytheway

Please look again. There is a section on Scotland, and an entire article on Hogmanay. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 12:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Oceania

While I am aware that most continents cover a number of time zones, perhaps Oceania could be moved to the top of the list of Local Celebrations, as the section indicates that New Year's arrives there first. Oftentimes news coverage of the celebrations follow the festivities as they progress around the globe.Mannanan51 (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)mannanan51

The order is probably to do with the likely distribution of the readers. I don't think anyone expects to read the sections as they happen in real time. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 15:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

{{request edit}} Hopeful inclusion in this section. I have a song to add.

Dear Sir/Madam, hello. My name is Ivor Game, a singer/songwriter from Ashford in Middlesex, just South West of London. I have released 9 albums, 6 singles and tour my acoustic shows across the uk and beyond. I have generated lots of BBC and other airplay over the years and understand I do have a profile. Today though, I would like to ask if you could add 1 of my songs to Wikipedia sites. In your site that lists "new year songs" I would ask you to include my song "Happy New Year". This is a single from my 2012 album "Freckles" and has enjoyed worldwide airplay these last 3 months. On the BBC, in America, across Europe, national in Australia and I believe Japan. I hope to keep building a profile for my music and hope Wikipedia can include it in the relevant lists. You can hear Happy New Year on, iTunes and Soundcloud. This song is also included in my licensing deal with Paul McCartney's company MPL, which is a huge boost for me and the songs. I hope to keep building a profile for the song year on year. Kind regards and hope to hear from you.

Yours Ivor.

www.ivorgame.com

Rejected because an addition of the proposed content would be taken as promotional material. You may create an article on your song or album, though. Kevin12xd (talk) (contribs) 00:09, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

{{request edit}} Hopeful inclusion in this section. I have a song to add.

Dear Sir/Madam, hello. My name is Ivor Game, a singer/songwriter from Ashford in Middlesex, just South West of London. I have released 9 albums, 6 singles and tour my acoustic shows across the uk and beyond. I have generated lots of BBC and other airplay over the years and understand I do have a profile. Today though, I would like to ask if you could add 1 of my songs to Wikipedia sites. In your site that lists "new year songs" I would ask you to include my song "Happy New Year". This is a single from my 2012 album "Freckles" and has enjoyed worldwide airplay these last 3 months. On the BBC, in America, across Europe, national in Australia and I believe Japan. I hope to keep building a profile for my music and hope Wikipedia can include it in the relevant lists. You can hear Happy New Year on, iTunes and Soundcloud. This song is also included in my licensing deal with Paul McCartney's company MPL, which is a huge boost for me and the songs. I hope to keep building a profile for the song year on year. Kind regards and hope to hear from you.

Yours Ivor.

www.ivorgame.com

Procedural decline; see response to above query Kevin12xd (talk) (contribs) 00:09, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

RFC in Brazil

As a brazilian, resident of Rio de Janeiro, I should mention several innacuracies in Brazil's New Year's Party. We do not eat grapes as a custom (lentils, maybe); We wear colors with meanings for what we wish for the upcoming year, and White simbolizes peace, not good luck. Yellow or gold is worn a lot as well, symbolizing wealth. Saying New Year's day marks the beginning of the summer holidays is not right. People do not stop working. It marks the beginning of summer in an abstract sense. The Corrida de São Silvestre is not a marathon (it's a 15km race ), and it happens on the morning of the 31st which should be indicated so it does not create confusion. The mentioning of wasing in saltwater and jumping seven waves is useful, for it means cleansing the sould from bad spirits and harmful thoughts from others.

(Sorry for press links in portuguese, this is more like oral tradition)

Jeihot 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeihot (talk • contribs)  

New Year in Macedonia

The last two sentences in the section Macedonia under Europe: " New Year in Macedonia celebrated as it starts the new year 2014.Mouth are displaced.". What are they supposed to mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefan Stojkovski (talk • contribs) 15:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

New Year in Turkey

"Numerous decorations and customs traditionally associated with Christmas and Bayrams find a secular translation in Turkish New Year's Eve celebrations, where homes and streets are lit up in glittering lights as well as various traditional Turkish aesthetic practices"

There isn't any traditional Turkish decoration in New Year. Many people decorate Christmas Trees, but they call it "New Year Tree", so this can also be added to this section.

Also it is said that "Zante currant-pimento-dill iç pilav dish, dolma, hot börek, baklava and various other eggplant dishes, topped with warm pide, salep and boza." are preffered in New Year dinners in Turkey. However, most people prefer eating turkey or at least chicken in New Year, maybe baklava can be ate but no one eats eggplant dish or pide. The celebrations in Turkey are mostly like Christmas, except the religious way of it.

German section mistake

"Traditionally jelly filled doughnuts with and with out liquor fillings are eaten. An finally a tiny marzipan pig is consumed for more good luck."

This is false. Nobody in Germany eats traditionally doughnuts or tiny marzipan pig at new Years Eve. What is the source for that ?

I don´t know of that traditions either, but I figured that maybe down in bavaria people would be more likely to eat marzipan or "gefüllte Krapfen", for that matter. Could someone from southgermany please have a look at this? Because I am pretty sure that in NRW and northern from there nobody does this.

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2014

The 'songs' section of your 'new year's eve' article could include the 1891 English music hall song "The Miner's Dream of Home" and two traditional scottish Hogmanay songs "A Guid New Year" and "Here's to the Year that's awa".

Brdlwrd (talk) 01:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Technical 13 (talk) 03:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Belgian section

A lot of the content in the Belgian section is dubious, and the reference page given for the farmers wishing their animals a happy new year doesn't even mention this "fact". 213.119.26.53 (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Lead image

The current lead image does not properly illustrate the subject per our image use guidelines and I recommend replacing it with one that actually illustrates people celebrating NYE in an explicit and unambiguous way. The current image shows some boats, pretty lights, and a bridge, but doesn't illustrate the subject appropriately. Viriditas (talk) 02:29, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Music

The music section, it would appear, has always been listed in no particular order. Auld Lang Syne by Robert Burns, however, has been listed first for some while (9+ years), presumably because it is, by some margin, the most associated with the date.

@Hymnodist.2004: added two entries recently, and determined that these should be first in the list. I reorder this list back to what it was previously, with the two entries included. Hymnodist.2004 reverted this back, without explanation. After I again restored the original order, Hymnodist.2004 again reverted with the explanation that it was chronological order. Except none of the rest of the list is chronological, so the rationale of ordering the first three entries chronologically is lost on me.

Rather than be drawn into an edit war, I pointed this out in a message on Hymnodist.2004's talk page, which he has since deleted and ignored. So I'm inviting him again to explain why this list should be chronological, and why he hasn't done this if he is of the opinion it should be. I'm open to persuasion, but right now I don't see the value in it being chronological.

The list itself is rather messy and borders on trivia. It could do with further tidy and better sourcing.

I'll also remind Hymnodist.2004 on the Bold, Revert Discuss principle. If challenged on an edit you discuss, not revert and ignore. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 16:07, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and reverted the list back to the previous order, i.e. none in particular. Happy to hear any suggestions why it should be chronological, or indeed why the first three entries should be. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 17:44, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Albanian Section

The section on Albanian celebration has serious tone issues. There are also a few punctuation issues. I'm nowhere near knowledgeable enough on Albanian traditions to ammend it, but it is in need of a rewrite and references.

104.251.247.127 (talk) 20:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)