Talk:New Jersey Turnpike/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

What’s the point of Newark extension?

What was, like, the point of labeling I-78 inbetween the mainline and Jersey City as part of the turnpike but a separate extension? Or more specifically, which came first, the turnpike extension or building of I-78? If it’s I-78, what was the point of the NJTA buying this part of roadway and calling it part of the turnpike even though most people not very knowledgeable of roadways don’t think it? Jason Ingtonn (talk) 22:26, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

The Turnpike extension came first, opened in 1958 to provide a branch connection between the Turnpike and Jersey City and the Holland Tunnel. The full completion of I-78 didn't happen until the 70s. So it was a case of part of the toll roads of the northeast being made part of the Interstate system after the fact.

The answers to your question are in the article in I-78 in New Jersey, which I linked in this article. Just mentioning that because this page is for discussing improvements to the article, not questions about the subject of the article. oknazevad (talk) 00:53, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:New Jersey Turnpike/GA4. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Trainsandotherthings (talk · contribs) 20:34, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Failed "good article" nomination

This article has failed its Good article nomination. This is how the article, as of January 10, 2023, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Several issues with prose, not to mention multiple areas lacking citations.

2. Verifiable?: At least one unreliable source tag, and several areas with no citations, plus multiple dead links as citations.

3. Broad in coverage?: Think we are generally in OK shape here.

4. Neutral point of view?: I do not see anything glaring, but have not fully evaluated this criterion.

5. Stable?: Okay here.

6. Images?: I have not fully evaluated this criterion.

I'm afraid this is going to be a quickfail. The article is not at all ready for GAN. I see a citation needed tag, an unreliable source tag, a full citation needed tag, and multiple paragraphs with no citations. Please address these issues, and the unresolved issues from Talk:New Jersey Turnpike/GA3, before renominating.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:34, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

I know this nomination has been failed already, but I do not think the article is broad in coverage, either. There is more that can be said about the turnpike's history between the 1950s and the 1990s. The first six paragraphs of the "2000s to present" section are longer than the "1950s to 1990s" section, and they contain a lot of detail that may be excessive. The "In popular culture" may contain indiscriminate, trivial mentions, and many of the entries are unsourced. If I had seen this nomination sooner, I would have recommended that it be withdrawn, because many of the issues mentioned in GA3 have not been addressed adequately. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:35, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Really though, where *is* the northern terminus?

Take a look at This Image (1) and This Image (2), both coming off the GWB southbound and about 1000 feet apart. In picture 1, the TP shield, along with I-80, is smaller than I-95, implying that that route hasn’t begun yet until later. Yet picture 2 shows both I-95 and the TP under “SOUTH” and the TP isn’t under “TO” like I-80 and the parkway are, implying that the TP has begun. I didn’t notice it until driving home today, and it just got me thinking more about this dispute on whether the so-called turnpike in Fort Lee is part of the real, mainline, or if it is not mainline, or if the NJTA doesn’t even know the answer either. There’s a small sign under the Fletcher Ave overpass that says “Begin/End NJTA Jurisdiction” but that doesn’t quite answer the question. Jason Ingtonn (talk) 05:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

I do think that small sign does indeed answer the question. While I-95 north of the interchange with US 46 wasn't transferred to NJTA control until many years after its construction, and was itself built later than the rest of the Turnpike, it is now part of the Turnpike and Fort Lee is the northern terminus. oknazevad (talk) 10:41, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Spurs

does anyone think that the Spurs and other auxiliary routes should be a different color from the main route? NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 19:19, 6 October 2023 (UTC)