Talk:New Caledonia (Canada)

revised

I revised this article, mainly adding detail about the historical background and shifting designations of the territory, and correcting for grammar and syntax. I jettisoned most of the discussion of the naming of British Columbia which, while interesting, is a little too detailed, and may more properly be discussed in the article History of British Columbia, since it has little to do with New Caledonia as such. Fishhead64 21:23, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

With the signing of the Treaty of Washington (1846), the boundaries of New Caledonia were set between the 49th and 54th parallels of latitude, and west of the Rocky Mountains.

Was this in the Treaty of Washington? Because that's how it reads. The area established by that treaty had no collective name other than the ones the Americans invented for it (never having seen any of it), except if it's named in the treaty as such. "The boundaries of British claims in the region, including New Caledonia, were set...." might read better, but it's still not quite right; I'll think about it at work today and come back later....British claims already existed and didn't need a defined boundary as those had already been established by the US and British treaties with Spain, and in the north by treaties with Russia, and on the east by the charter of the Hudson's Bay Company/Rupert's Land. i.e. the boundaries you cite were not established by the Treaty of Washington; that treaty only specified the lands contained by pre-extant boundaries.Skookum1 15:36, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I thought it was strange, too, because it contradicts what is writtten in the paragraph following. What would be more accurate would be to say that after the Oregon Treaty, the remaining region was popularly known as New Caledonia.

BTW, the name of the Anglican diocese in northern BC is the Diocese of Caledonia - not New Caledonia - but the derivation is the same. Fishhead64 00:49, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Isn't there a Catholic diocese up there by the N.C. form? Or is that under D.Kamloops? Or would you even know, being from that other church.....have you ever read any Father Morice, by the way? I'm sure you'd find him interesting; northern BC history and Carrier language stuff; lots of volumes, also a history of the French in North-West America (including BC, that is, not just the Prairies); never read it but it's a biggie; I doubt many anglo historians have bothered, other than linguists and the main old dudes like Howay and Begg and Ormsby and such. I could ramble here but I just got in from the gym and need my shower/dinner. I think between the two of us we might form a two-man Wikiproject (if not by name) surveying/reviewing the history articles needed, and which ones need fixing/research/expansion and so on.....Skookum1 04:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

There may be a RC diocese of that name - I can only speak for the Anglican one. Fishhead64 07:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum

Please see RE BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum re: Talk:List of United States military history events#Border Commission troops in the Pacific Northwest. If you think maybe I should also move some or copy some of my other stuff from NW history and BC history pages let me know; I never mean to blog, but I'm voluble and to me everything's interconnected; never meaning to dominate a page so have made this area to post my historical rambles on. Thoughts?Skookum1 03:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Truth v. Sources

I've made some changes to correct information that's been added to this article sicne ethe last time I looked at it; if the material I've changed was in "Geographical Names of Canada Provinces and Territories - The origins of their names" it's proof to me how far out of touch with BC history Canadian federal institutions are; not a reliable source at all, by what I've had to change here, if that's where the material came from...f.Skookum1 (talk) 15:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

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