Talk:National symbols of Wales
Latest comment: 6 months ago by Sirfurboy in topic Gold Dragon
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Gold Dragon
editI have removed the Gold Dragon from the list, added in 2022 by Titus Gold. The TL:DR reason is that Titus Gold created a whole page for this once, and we looked at the historical sources and simply did not find such a symbol of Wales in them and the page was redirected into the red dragon article. But specifically on this entry, here are some of the things making it problematic:
- The image is of a Wyvern, not a dragon. Note that the dragon on Glyndwr's seal has 4 legs, not 2 [1]
- Arthurian legend is not Welsh history
- Glyndwr history is being sourced to a newspaper and the link is dead anyway. Newspapers are not suitable sources for Welsh history
- The Nathenamin source is a blog. WP:SPS
- Next 2 sources are also newspapers (the National - dead link again, and Wales Online)
- The Rudy gold colour source fails to verify. See Talk:Welsh Gold Dragon
- Although there was a dragon on the privy seal (link as above) it was not only a dragon, and that was his personal seal, not a symbol of Wales. It was a seal and not a flag and the existence of the dragon took the pre-existing dragon symbols. The seal, of course, is uncoloured - it is used to make an impression in wax, and the wax could be any colour, although red is common.
So all in all it is just speculative and ahistorical. Sirfurboyđ (talk) 07:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)