Talk:National qualifications frameworks in the United Kingdom
Latest comment: 4 months ago by Robminchin in topic Non-degree awarding bodies
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Clinical qualifications edit
The table has primary medical qualifications as level 7 but "Professional doctorates" as Level 8 in England and Wales. is that correct? S C Cheese (talk) 15:01, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, in the UK (and most of the rest of the world), a 'professional doctorate' is a PhD-level research qualification with a professional or practical concentration. Robminchin (talk) 15:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. My surprise was that medical qualification (MB, BM and similar) isn't Level 8 in England. S C Cheese (talk) 17:14, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, in the UK (and most of the rest of the world), a 'professional doctorate' is a PhD-level research qualification with a professional or practical concentration. Robminchin (talk) 15:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Non-degree awarding bodies edit
The table in the section on Higher education qualifications shows HND and HNC as "awarded by a degree-awarding body". Isn't that more true of CertHE and DipHE? I don't think it is true of HNDs and HNCs. In other words, has that comment slipped by a row? Should it actually say "awarded by a non-degree-awarding body"? Is it even necessary to say it?
Here are the relevant rows in the table, for ease of reference.
| FHEQ (EWNI) | FQHEIS | Qualifications | Equivalent EHEA cycle |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5 | N/A | Short Cycle | |
| 8 | |||
| N/A |
| ||
| 4 | 7 | N/A | |
| N/A |
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Phil Barker 17:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- No, the HNC and HND are only on the Framework for Higher Education Qualifications (i.e. are only higher education qualifications) if they are awarded by a degree-awarding body, otherwise they are on the Regulated Qualifications Framework. CertHE and DipHE are always higher education qualifications. Robminchin (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thank you for the explanation. I added a little to the table so that others don't get confused in the same way I was. Feel free to revert if you don't think it helpful. Phil Barker 12:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, confusion is how we discover that the wording needs to be made clearer! It's always easy to understand if you already know what it means. Robminchin (talk) 16:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thank you for the explanation. I added a little to the table so that others don't get confused in the same way I was. Feel free to revert if you don't think it helpful. Phil Barker 12:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)