Talk:National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine

Relation to National Academy of Education?

I was wondering if anyone could clarify the relation between:

National Academy of Education
https://naeducation.org

and

The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine - Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education – Education
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/DBASSE/Topics/DBASSE_068935

In their respective Wikipedia articles I could find no information about whether they are the same or have any relation. Still, when you see their contact address, they are in the same building in 500 Fifth Street NW, Washington, DC 20001 --Jummai (talk) 09:37, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Major edit: Name Change

At the beginning of July, 2015, the institution known collectively as the National Academies (here on Wikipedia as "National Academies (United States)" began referring to itself as the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. This name change is reflected in the cited press release regarding the Institute of Medicine changing its name to the National Academy of Medicine. I'm not sure if this name change would require the "(United States)" designation that was on this page previously, since I don't know if that designation was to clear up any possible confusion with other National Academies or if was to identify it as the national academy of the US (which I'm not sure if it is, since it's an independent organization and not a federal institution).

I removed the section header for National Research Council, since the NRC will no longer be used publicly. Instead, reports will be issued from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. Most of the content that was previously in the NRC section is now in the "Operations" section.

Full disclosure: I'm an employee, but acting only in the interest of keeping this page informational. Areseven (talk) 13:20, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

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as with the United State National Academy of Science page, the page title needs to be changed to "National Academies (United States)".

Merger proposal

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The result of this discussion is to go ahead with the merge. I have added content to ameliorate Fcrary's concerns. ServiceAT (talk) 23:39, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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I propose merging National Research Council (United States) (aka NRC) into this article National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (aka NASEM) and (per above) renaming the combined page as "National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (United States).

Rationale: The two identities (NRC and NASEM) are names for the same, identical entity. NASEM/NRC is the operating arm of its three member academies. There is no distinction between NASEM and NRC, so there should not be two separate articles. NRC was what it used to call itself, but it is now called NASEM (full title, not just acronym). It is of course suitable to maintain a redirect from the old article name.

Before doing this, I will wait to see if this is controversial, or of anyone wants to discuss.

ServiceAT (talk) 01:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure about a merge, but something needs to be done. The current pages do not clearly describe the organization of the NAS, NAE and NAM, their relation to each other, or to the NASEM or NRC. I'd suggest adding content and references, about the history of the NRC and NASEM. It could be they are the same, and the separate entries should be merged. But I'd be more comfortable with additional details and references.

Fcrary (talk) 01:11, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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