Talk:Natalia Korolevska

Names of children

What significant value does adding the children's names give to this article? Per Wikipedia:BLP#Privacy_of_names we need to provide some strong justification for doing so. Kevin (talk) 04:15, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry, but this is nonsense; I only tried to fill in an infobox the best I could (since I don't speak Ukrainian very well it took me a while to find the name of her second child, hope this explains my irritation, I do not like my time waisted with wiki-nitpicking). The infobox of US politician Roland Burris (also) names his children and nobody minds, Natalia's infobox (also) names her children and nobody minds, meanwhile the IP-editor who behaviour get's worse and I have to write a response to your question about a problem that nobody haves; I think we both know that we can help wikipedia a lot more doing other things then bureaucracy cherry picking (again nobody before you mined the name of kids in infoboxes about politicians and no let's not waist our time with rewriting all those infoboxes (must be 1000+ by now)). No offence but let's write articles and fight vandalism! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not trying to waste your time, I am explaining the policy regarding publishing the names of otherwise non-notable children. This policy is crystal clear that there must be a substantial benefit to the encyclopedia in publishing the names of children.

As for the IP edits, I agree that they are becoming disruptive and have protected the article for a while. Hopefully the IP will come here to discuss the issue. Kevin (talk) 20:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Discussing things? That would be a first for that IP (looking at his/her contributions the editor does not care much about wikipedia and rules in general). It seems general consensus on wikipedia says "kids name in infoboxes please". So Wikipedia:BLP#Privacy_of_names does not seem to apply for politicians. 50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Where is this "general consensus" you speak of? Such a thing, even if it exists does not however trump BLP policy. Kevin (talk) 21:41, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I ment "BLP policy" is getting widespread ignored; thus it has no meaning to countless editors, thus it has also no meaning to me! If rules don't apply for all the apply for none (US politicians are not special exceptions I do believe). According to the Wikipedia:Five pillars "Wikipedia does not have firm rules besides the five general principles presented here". So I and other editors don't follow this "BLP policy firm rules"; in the spirit of wikipedia we don't have to. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Well thanks for letting me know what kind of editor you are. I'm going to remove those names as clearly specified by WP:BLP, and if you want to put them back you will have to justify it. I suggest that using the "other stuff exists" argument will fail. Kevin (talk) 22:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Kevin's right. The whole idea is to raise the bar on the Wikipedia standards, not to end up at the lowest common denominator. Pages that don't meet standard should be improved; pages that do meet standard shouldn't devolve. tedder (talk) 23:54, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Now I know that Kevin's reason was "her children are under 18 and Roland Burris's kids are adults" I do see I was wrong in questioning his edits; you see I made the wrong assumption he was just cherry picking and setting different standards for Ukrainian and US politicians (one of the problems with on-line communication is that I can't see others body language or tone of voice), that made me annoyed. In future I will ask fellow wikipedians to give me there exact reason for there edits (if I feel there is something wrong with them ofcourse). Sorry to have been causing all these troubles and for my unfriendly behaviour! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 00:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Gotcha, Mariah-Yulia. WP:BELLY covers this situation adequately, I think. tedder (talk) 00:35, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. Another lesson learned... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 00:44, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Верховная Рада хочет запретить миссионерскую позу в сексе

Is this true? "На рассмотрение Верховной Рады Украины подан законопроект, призванный искоренить занятие сексом в "миссионерской" позиции." Or is it just a joke? Căluşaru' (talk) 22:31, 27 March 2012

Must be a joke... If it was true I am sure Kyiv Post would have reported about it.... It did not. I do not know this www.delfi.ua website btw. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Education in doubt

Please take a look at this article ("Minister without Education"). It seems to prove in length that Korolevska does not actually have a double degree in economy/management, but I'd rather let someone better versed in Ukrainian media to judge its verifiability. --194.150.65.45 (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

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