Talk:Nanyang Girls' High School/Archive 1

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I have tried to edit the last paragraph to remove the romantic connotations. As a former student of NYGH, I really disagree with the previous author's comments on NYGH-HCI romantic relationships. I also added a bit of information on the BSP and cleared up the ambiguity about the cheena-ness of NYGH Ĉat all. Also, the word 'cheena' has negative connotations and should not be used to describe NYGH students. Thank you.

Surely this shows the notability...?

• • • The criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. ;) -- Миборовский ^{U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai!} 22:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Remind me to write a book about the odd quirks of Secondary Schools in Singapore one day. Anyway isn't SSP a source? ;) Also it was alluded to like so:

"Looking across the road at the new Nanyang Girls' High School, an idea struck me. I suggested to the Principal to hold joint activities between his boys and Nanyang Girls’. If his boys have girl friends in Singapore, that may pull them back to Singapore! But what if the girls too go overseas?" Former PM Goh Chok Tong, NDP rally speech 1999 gssq 22:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

OK lor. Even though you should know as well as I do that politicians NEVER tell the truth... ;) But since the criterion is verifiability not truth... heh. -- Миборовский ^{U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai!} 23:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

• • I'm aware of this problem, it's in need of serious rework and fellow Singapore editors are trying to help. Please contribute in one way or another if you can so that the article can be a better one. - Mailer Diablo 17:32, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
    • (* One of the articles that needs to have its issues addressed - See Wikipedia talk:SGpedians' notice board for discussion. - Mailer Diablo 18:57, 7 May 2005 (UTC))
      • Hello, I am the former student who posted the second message on this page. I have added a section on NYGH's history and though inadequate to make up a full article, I hope it helps to make it more substantial. Thank you.
        • Thank you for your contributions, although it might be better to turn it into full paragraphs instead of a timeline format. This way, more significant events could be highlighted. Also, you might wish to consider signing up for an account! ;) --Huaiwei 18:40, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Hi again, here's my account :) I've turned the timeline into paragraphs; the article is underęç construction. I'm still very much a newbie & I hope to learn things along the way. Thanks! Serilda
            • I just left a welcome note. :D Meanwhile, feel free to expand the paragraphs even more, and possibly even having subsections...say, for the prewar and postwar periods. In particular, we need information on how the school contributed to the building of Singapore as a nation over the years. This will make the article much more encyclopedic I believe? ;)--Huaiwei 14:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Hi again, I noticed that someone has added a section titled 'Uniform'. It doesn't seem to be suitable for an encyclopedia because it is written in the first (plural) person and contains very trivial information to people who aren't from the school. Would it be okay if I shorten it to a few sentences simply describing the uniform, and not lamenting about what it is like to wear it? :) --Serilda 17:12, 23 June 2005 (Singapore time)
  • Good call, although I also find the linkage of the uniform's design with the school's values intriguing. Would it be possible to investigate, validify, and expand on that? As for the "comfort" part of the uniform, we can actually make a mention of it, but as you would have realised, only if it is deemed to be of some "academic" value. How has the uniformed evolved over time? Why retain the sleeveless design? I suspect its more than just confort...a tinge of heritage? Yeah..it is possible to write so much on signature uniforms...just as I am currently researching on SPF uniforms! :D Whatever the case, do call out for help it needed in your research! :D --Huaiwei 10:26, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This note is for future research/expansion:

Actually if you go to Nanyang's Heritage Corner, you can see a series of the different uniforms on display that have been used and modified over the years. I don't have solid information on this because I haven't been there for ages, but the first uniform that I saw had a Chinese collar, long sleeves and a long skirt (to be worn with white shoes and stockings). It was pretty much the traditional Chinese school uniform as seen in China in the early 1900s. Then the sleeves gradually got cropped shorter- when the principal saw the uniform of a student previously from a Malaysian school, it inspired the shortening of the Nanyang uniform's sleeves to elbow length (because it was cooler I think.) Then they became capped sleeves, and eventually the top became sleeveless :) -Pending amendments- Thanks to the person who added the side bar to make the article's format more encyclopedic! --Serilda 9.58, 29 June 2005 (Singapore time)

• • • • Article expanded. :) --Serilda 12.17 am Singapore time, 2nd July 2005

Are school uniform information encyclopedic? Mandel 16:20, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad the article has finally been done up. Thanks

It is true that the school rules state that bras must be white in colour. Girls have been caught wearing other bras and made to wear white ones.213.48.73.89 18:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I second what says. There are many instances of such (many girls have to change their bras in school). Leave the Uniform section as such. Earrings are definitely not allowed.Cibwins 20:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It cannot be sourced since i do not have access to the school handbook. But many blogs verify the statement —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.73.89 (talk) 22:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Elaboration on details

Some abbreviations are not immediately clear to me (an outsider) - perhaps someone could expand them:

1. Right sidebar - "Most girls wear back FBTs under the skirts." FBTs?

FBTs are very short shorts commonly worn among Singaporean female students for sports. The material and structure of the Nanyang uniform shorts resemble FBTs. -Serilda

That is a fact.213.48.73.89 15:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

1. History, para 3 - "In 1921, Mdm. NJH" - Not clear who NJH is. -- Gerald Tan 09:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It should be Mdm Yu Pei Gao (http://www.nygh.moe.edu.sg/about_nygh/history.shtml). -Serilda

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