Talk:Nanoha Takamachi

Nanoha's injuries?

So I've added a bit to the manga section concerning the near-fatal defeat Nanoha suffers (via flashback) in issue 2 of the A's-to-StrikerS manga (primarily because there's no entry for the mangas proper), and while it's an important character point that will probably be expanded on in StrikerS I'm still a little unsure if it's appropriate for the character page as I ended up doubling the length of the Manga section. Feedback? SpaceDrake 05:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC) We know If nanoha could Die i dont know what is happened —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slacker 777 (talk • contribs) 11:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Raising Heart v Raging Heart

Which is it? Is there a source that calls it Raising Heart? Because that’s not what it sounds like. And most of those referneces aren't real references are they? They are just typed quotes. --Tyrfing 15:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the official name is 'Raising Heart', but then Raging Heart is a lot cooler IMO. 60.50.47.37 12:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

hey man, it's written "raising heart exelion" under nanoha's close-up in the opening of strikers, but the seiyuu always says "raging heart" during all 3 seasons, and i also think the latter is a lot cooler. =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.140.164.201 (talk) 16:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I also agree that it should be "Raging Heart" beacuse during the credits, the Katakana is spelt as "Raging", not "Raising". RollEXE (talk) 08:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

There isn't a way to represent the "si" sound of "Raising" in Japanese. The ジ ji katakana that is used is the closest approximation, and レイジング reijingu is how the words "raging" and "raising" would both be written in katakana. So don't go by the katakana spelling/pronunciation; it's the same for both possibilities. Philip Reuben (talk) 16:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Some people use 'shi' for 'Raising'. It does sound like 'Racing' though, but I've seen it used in that way. Then again, there isn't any official translation as I know of, since Geneon collapsed in America. :/

Should we go by the Seiyuu pronunciation? Also, "Raising Heart" doesn't make as much sense as "Raging Heart", in my opinion. RollEXE (talk) 04:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The voice actors have no call on what something is or is not called. Since the official material, which is to say, the opening sequence which clearly writes it in English, says it's Raising Heart, then it's Raising Heart, not Raging Heart. As such some modifications are to be made to this wiki article and to the Device wiki article which constantly switch between Raging and Raising. Raising Heart despite sounding a bit less awesome makes more sense, since Nanoha has zero amount of rage in her other than at very specific one-minute-long-at-most segments of the series. Raising Heart can pretty much stand for having high morale, being cheerful and looking up rather than down. For Nanoha, it makes more sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.146.151 (talk) 18:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

About Blaster Mode's effects on Nanoha

The current entry about Blaster Mode's damage to Nanoha's body is incorrect, or at least misleading. According to the Sound Stages, Nanoha's use of Blaster Mode in the Cradle battle permanently cause a loss of 8% of her magical prowess, an effect which is exactly what the use of Excellion mode back in A's promised (but never shown in the A's material). What the current entry mentions is merely the external injuries caused by the use of Blaster mode, but forgets to mention the real impact. Furthermore I propose we can say that Blaster Mode (and maybe Exceed as well) is merely an upgraded version of the Excellion mode, though honestly speaking this is an assumption on my part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estavali (talk • contribs) 05:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

To be completely fair, for a mode that's supposed to "sap away" her magical powers, Excelion never really did such a thing despite how often and freely she's used it-- if anything Nanoha has been getting more and more powerful despite the slew of abilities she now has that are supposed to be messing up with her output on a permanent basis. It's safe to assume that Nanoha is one of those people who miraculously get better all-too-fast, as is demonstrated from the fact that when she was told she would never be able to walk or fly again, she just got up and proved them wrong.

It's either that, or we can assume that the TSAB's medical teams are all useless and wouldn't know a common cold if they saw it, hence their making of rather baseless conclusions like "you'll never be able to walk again". Of course all of this is speculation, but I'm one who prefers to see the end result rather than the process, and in this case the end result is that Nanoha seems quite fine.

And yeah, Blaster Mode is probably an upgraded form of Excelion, if by upgraded we mean a literal multiplication of Raising Heart's.. for a lack of better word, 'cannon'. 70.83.146.151 (talk) 10:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I can see your point, but I will stand by my own. If I didn't read you wrongly ,you mentioned that use of Excellion mode didn't and will not affect Nanoha adversely. Well, firstly, her injuries were caused by pushing herself over her limits, of which I believe is partially related to Raising Heart. However this is not specifically mentioned in any official material, so I will not push my accusation.

But it is very clearly stated in the 4th Sound Stage that the effects of using Blaster Mode in the Cradle was lasting. In fact, in said Sound Stage, Shamal feared this might be a trend and advised Nanoha to take at least one year's rest from magic. To which Nanoha replied that she don't think she will fully recover even then, which was why she decided to make better use of her time by teaching her students (the Forwards) her "tricks" (most famously, her imparting of Starlight Breaker to Teana). This does suggest that Nanoha's health is slowly detoriating due to pushing herself too much. In fact there are some suble hints in the first 8 episodes and perhaps in the gathering found in chapter 3 of the A's to StrikerS manga that people around her are worried about her physical condition. While 7Arcs conveniently forgot about Excellion mode's adverse effects, they are not so forgetful when it comes to Blaster mode.

You have mentioned that you prefer to see the end result to be sure whether her injuries will be permanent, which in your PoV means "no". I would say that, until 7Arcs comes out and clearly refutes what they have specifically mentioned in the Sound Stage, it would be safer to assume that the end result is that her injuries are here to stay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estavali (talk • contribs) 14:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I don't deny her injuries at all! Just that they seem to have a tendency to, shall we say, grossly oversell said injuries. For instance, I recall that one episode of StrikerS explains that the Wolkenritter are slowly deteriorating/losing their power, but that doesn't seem to stop Vita from single-handely crushing the craddle with a gaping hole in her chest. Then there's the part I already spoke of where they all went "you'll never be able to walk again Nanoha" and as we all know she not only got back on her feet but miraculously recovered entirely. That said, I'm pretty certain those first injuries she got was from the Belkan Cartridge System since it was still experimental and/or dangerous, and she seems to like using at least five to ten cartridges per episode/fight.

While I'm certain she injured herself at the end of StrikerS, I'm just not inclined to think it's quite as bad as they make it sound.70.83.146.151 (talk) 08:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Well Hello There English Dub: Raising VS Raging & Misc Info

1) We need someone to put down who Nanoha and Raising Heart's English voice-actors are for the first season which is now officially out and dubbed. It's not bad, by the way. Go watch it.

2) Oh boy, Raising Heart vs Raging Heart debate. The material that came with the DVDs says Raising Heart. The dub says Raging Heart. The official manga says Raising Heart. The kanji/katakana/whatever says 'Reijingu' which is either Raising or Raging. The StrikerS opening says Raising. Gentlemen, we have a problem. Raging or Raising? Raising or Raging? Is there even a way to tell? I guess English purists will say that the dub is right because it's the official dub and says Raging, but Japanese purists will reply that all the source material that spells it out using the English alphabet names it Raising.

This is, to not pull back words, a b*tch. What do we do? What do we call it? People're gonna whine either ways! 70.83.146.151 (talk) 11:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Per WP:NAME, the name more commonly recognized by readers is to be used. So Raising Heart is just fine. Kazu-kun (talk) 15:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Firing Lock?

What did "Firing Lock is cancelled" actually means? It did not make any sense... ThunderXANA (talk) 05:39, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Think of it like a safety mechanism. I think they call them 'limiters' earlier on in the series. That's why they're calling 'firing locks'. They 'lock' 'firing' to a certain level, usually until she can get clearance to unleash big lasers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.146.151 (talk) 00:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Lesbian

I'm still looking for a direct quote, but Masaki Tsuzuki, and both the voice actresses for Nanoha and Fate have established that Nanoha and Fate are indeed lesbians. Can someone help me find a proper source for this? Where should it be added to the article? --Tarage (talk) 06:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)