Talk:Namba Station

Article split?

I am confused. There are several train lines with stations in the same part of Namba, run by four companies (JR, Nankai, Kintetsu, and the Osaka municipal subway), all linked by contiguous passageways underground. Why are the Nankai (above-ground) and subway stations grouped together, while the Kintetsu and JR lines have their own articles?

Just to clarify, I know the other articles are at JR Namba Station and Kintetsu Namba Station, but the picture on the front page is of Nankai Namba Station, not the subway stop. The existing naming divisions are already artificial, since the stops are all really "Namba"... and the picture of a building on the Kintetsu page is just one of many buildings you can go into the basement of to access the underground line. Dekimasu 04:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

If we look at this map of the Namba Station vicinity, the Subway's Namba Stations (なんば駅) adjoins Nankai Namba Station (南海難波駅) with Kintetsu Namba Station (近鉄難波駅). If Nankai's & Kintetsu's stations were closer to each other, it would be a no-brainer... everybody would be in favor of merging the Kintetsu Namba Station article with the Namba Station article. (The trend we have right now is to combine articles for train stations with the same name if they are close together.)

It looks like the Japanese Wiki chose to separate Kintetsu's from Nankai's because they're apart from each other, but tacked on the Subway stations to Nankai's article instead of Kintetsu's, because Nankai's station is much more prominent... And the English Wiki followed suit.

But I am in favor of merging the Kintetsu Namba Station article with the Namba Station article, because the subway stations adjoin them, and they're all close enough.

Oh, and of course, the JR Namba Station (JR難波駅) is so far apart from anything else, it should remain separated... that's a no-brainer, at least for me.--Endroit 03:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually the JR station is right next to the subway's Yotsubashi line station at Namba (look around numbers 29-30). The subway adjoins all three stations. If that's the trend, then all four should really be together. You can get from the Yotsubashi line to the JR line in 2-3 minutes, same as from the Midosuji to the Nankai. ...It would also make sense to break off the two with prominent buildings (JR and Nankai) and put the subway and the Kintetsu line together. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is putting the Nankai and the subway together when the subway isn't with the JR. Dekimasu 03:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops, take that back! I'm not really an Osaka person, so I missed one critical point... The station names are not all the same.

1. Looking at my Japanese Timetable (時刻表, jikoku-hyō), I noticed that the Nankai Namba Station is actually named Namba-eki (難波駅) in the timetables.
2. Kintetsu's is invariably named Kintetsu Namba-eki (近鉄難波駅), which is different.
3. And JR's is invariably named JR Namba-eki (JR難波駅) today, and used to be called Minatomachi-eki (湊町駅) until 1994 according our JR Namba Station article, which are different.
4. However, the Subway stations are named Namba-eki (なんば駅), which is identical to Nankai's (albeit hiragana).

Therefore, the editors must have combined the Subway stations with Nankai's because of naming, and left the others separated. That is why we have 3 different articles now.--Endroit 05:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

But it's called Nankai Namba-eki even on the map you posted, and on signage throughout the stations. At least I understand the explanation. For that matter, Nankai spells the station name in hiragana (see their website or this picture). It still seems to me that if the one can't be Nankai Namba Station, that if the other two have separate articles, these should be Namba Station (Nankai) and Namba Station (Osaka Municipal Subway). Dekimasu 08:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps Nankai is changing their notation nowadays to avoid confusion; and my timetable is from the year 2002. If other people have no opinions regarding the multiple Namba Stations, please split/merge as you see fit. Again, I'm not familiar enough with the situation in Osaka to comment. I'll say that Umeda Station / Osaka Station is another anomally, and there are exceptions in Osaka.--Endroit 20:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I support having four separate articles. I think that will cause less confusion in the long run. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 20:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

From my experience, they really are 4 seperate stations at Namba interlinked, so logically you would expect either 1 big combined article, or 4 seperate ones. Combining Nankai and the Subway only makes no sense. When using online timetable searches, for example, Nankai comes out as "nanba(nankai)" and Kintetsu as "kintetsunanba". Ka-ru 06:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Support per above, may be able to use WP:SNOWBALL to split based on discussion from 18 years ago. Also the Ja-wiki lists Nankai and Osaka Metro platforms separately. Exp691 (talk) 21:37, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

I would certainly be in favor of following the Ja-wiki format. It seems to make sense and would allow us to fix the linking here: List of railway stations in Japan: N Jpgeek (talk) 05:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)