Talk:Najmuddin of Gotzo

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Uzun-Hajji
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Najmuddin of Gotzo and Uzun-Hajji

• ... that although Uzun-Hajji and Najmuddin of Gotzo (pictured) were originally political allies, they later fought on opposing sides of the Russian Civil War?

• Source: Reynolds, Michael A. (2008). "Native Sons: Post-Imperial Politics, Islam, and Identity in the North Caucasus, 1917-1918". Jahrbücher für Geschichte Osteuropas. 56 (2): 221–247 – via JSTOR., pp. 223–224 (on their status as political allies); Donogo, M. M. (2008a). "Н. Гоцинский и повстанческая борьба в Дагестане и Чечне (1922-1925 гг.)" [N. Gotsinsky and the insurgent battle in Dagestan and Chechnya (1922–1925)]. New Historical Periodical: 135–138 – via Cyberleninka., p. 136 (on their fight on opposing sides)

• ALT1: ... that after Najmuddin of Gotzo was denied the title of imam, Uzun-Hajji left public life to live in the mountains of Chechnya? Source: Lobanov, Vladimir (2013). "История антибольшевистского движения на Северном Кавказе" [History of the Anti-Bolshevik Movement in the North Caucasus]. Poltorak (in Russian) – via Academia.edu. pp. 167–185
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Mupper-san (talk) 09:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC).

• Length of both articles ok. Date perhaps such have bee 6 Sep, but ok. No close paraphrase found. Image free on Commons. I prefer the original hook, but don't see sentences in article (directly referenced) clearly stating the fact. The articles need some editing, sentence such as "He died shortly after, and the" appears incomplete. Also, is the Arabic script names correct? I know nothing about Arabic script use in North Caucasus, but نازمودن is not Najmuddin in Arabic. --Soman (talk) 14:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  • @Soman:, I'm not quite sure if it would be written with the same letters as Arabic or if it would be written in the same style as Cyrillic/Latin-script forms of Avar. I wouldn't have any bias towards changing the spelling of Najmuddin in Arabic-script Avar to the Arabic form. The problem of an incomplete sentence has been fixed, as was a spelling error in the body. Mupper-san (talk) 21:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
    • Well, I learnt something new today. Usually non-Arabic languages retain Arabic spellings of Islamic names when using Arabic scripts. But I now understand that the spellings in Avar with Arabic differ from Arabic (I note the spelling of Rasul here for example). I also now find the hook fact in each other articles, --Soman (talk) 22:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

"A poet, alim, and teacher of Arabic ..."

The lead says he was "A poet, alim, and teacher of Arabic". What's an alim? Alim does not give an obvious answer. Nø (talk) 10:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)