Talk:Nadine Coyle

Derry City, County Londonderry, Northern Ireland, UK

OH FOR GOODNESS SAKE WIKIPEDIA!!! Londonderry/Derry/Stroke City whatever you want to call it is in NORTHERN IRELAND, like it or lump it. It is plain WRONG to describe places in NI as being anywhere else, (i.e. just 'Ireland') unless the constitutional position of Northern Ireland ever changes due to the wishes of the people of Northern Ireland, as inshrined in the Good Friday Agreement. Stop making petty political point scoring on this and grow up. The official name of the city also remains Londonderry until such time as it is officially changed, regardless of personal preferences. cyberbeagle.

Ireland isn't anywhere else. N.Ireland is part of Ireland because Ireland is a geographical location and not the name of a country. Goblin Man —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]NLKFDSjf wlkh ifhdlsh;l kdsfhlsdhlfhdlk] comment added by Goblinman (talk • contribs) 15:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Is that meant to be some kind of joke? She was born in Derry City, Ireland or Northern Ireland. No need to include any other crap that over-lengthens the place of birth.--Play Brian Moore 01:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

If ye want to cut the crap you could say she is from Londonderry........

Or, say she is from Derry. The ACTUAL name of the city. I don't see "London" anywhere in Doire.

Until such times as galic is given as the first language (which will never happen) of NORTHERN Ireland diore or whatever you think it should be does not nor shall not exist. LONDONDERRY is the places name, look on any map!

Any BRITISH map, all the free state maps list it (correctly) as DERRY--193.61.159.26 (talk) 14:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Northern Ireland is in the UK. Deal with it nationalists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.24.230 (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Per WP:DERRY, the city of her birth should remain listed as Derry. Please do not change it. Thanks, JoeSperrazza (talk) 21:35, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The name of her birthplace is Londonderry which is in Northern Ireland. The town council may well be called Derry City but the placename remains Lodonderry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScouserJG2 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Section unclear

"one-date-intercourse 'no matter what'" What is this supposed to mean, she does or does not have sex on the first date? I have read it throughly and I think it means the former. In any case it is confusing, can anyone clear it up? 213.202.132.246 03:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it means that she has to have intercourse on the first date no matter what...and that it's probably totally false and someone's idea of a joke. I'm removing it from the page. Fabricationary 03:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Photo

The photo is dark - I think there needs to be a better one! CC 91 16:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, also i think the new picture should have Nadine closer to the camera.Maxtitan (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Someone put strange at the very bottom of the page. I don't know how to edit it.

Fixed.Ultatri 17:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Nadine Coyle is Irish

I think Northern Irish/British needs replaced with Irish. She's made is very clear what her nationality is, and even had an Irish tricolour put on a Girls Aloud album when she found out a British flag was to be on it. Having her listed as not just "Northern Irish" but "British/Northern Irish" (when it is clicked) is surely against the Good Friday Agreement which entitles all citizens of Northern Ireland to be recognised as "British, Irish or both; if they so choose".

"When people say Girls Aloud are a British band and I'm there, I will explain that we are four British and one Irish. On our Greatest Hits album cover they had a Union Jack flag on the first draft. I was like: 'What is this? Where's the Irish flag? 'If you're going to put the Union Jack on, you have to put an Ireland flag on too'. So they did."

- A Nadine Coyle quotation from an interview for Hot Press

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.178.114 (talk) 18:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Nadine has made her choice quite clear, she considers herself Irish not British and she has not described herself as "Northern Irish". Therefore according to the legal right allowed to her under the Good Friday Agreement, she is Irish. O Fenian (talk) 02:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Legal right? Good Friday Agreement? Nadine Coyle was Irish before the GFA, and the GFA made absolutely no difference to that. "Legal rights" are irrelevant. The meaningless waffle in the GFA is irrelevant. Coming from Northern Ireland, she is also Northern Irish (and, by definition, Irish - check out the second word in the name "Northern Ireland"). I see no problem with the current wording. Mooretwin (talk) 09:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

To clear the matter up, just find a sufficent quote and cite it properly in the article. --Jimbo^[online] 03:13, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It really does not matter what she considers herself does it? She was born in N.Ireland not Republic therefore she is N.Irish not just Irish, that is like saying both your parents are German and you are born in Sweden ethnically you would be German but on a Wikipedia page you would be Swedish.--Jimmyson88 (talk) 03:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it does. Read the Good Friday Ageeement, "recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland". O Fenian (talk) 07:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

So people from N.Ireland are both British and Irish? You are either one or the other and as far as I'm aware Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom therefore British?--Jimmyson88 (talk) 21:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Northern Ireland may be part of the UK, but that does not make it "British". The official name of the state is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", showing that even supporters of the union recognise that Northern Ireland is not part of Britain, which is a separate island. RolandR (talk) 23:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

actually people born in the UKs Nationality is "British" just like someone from Hawaii can be American 2A02:C7C:4098:D700:E5D5:66FF:162D:7A52 (talk) 02:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

They are Irish if they want to be. And in the case of Nadine Coyle, she says "When people say Girls Aloud are a British band and I'm there, I will explain that we are four British and one Irish". O Fenian (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

.....and Ireland is part of the British Isles is it not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScouserJG2 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Nadine Coyle has appeared in one film and several television series which qualifies her as an actress

I saw this artist in the 2007 flick, St. Trinian's and she is listed on the Wikipedia article as being one of the Girls Aloud band members who made a cameo. Her IMDb entry lists that role and all her television credits. On that basis, I will add to her infobox that she qualifies as an actress. --Morenooso (talk) 19:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

That is not a notable actress. Off2riorob (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Single

Shouldn't the single page be opened now, the music video and everything has been released... --92.17.4.173 (talk) 09:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Irish

Please provide the text from the Hot Press article that states Coyle is Irish. If born in Derry she would be a British citizen. Does she hold an Irish passport? --BwB (talk) 20:00, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Try reading the Good Friday Agreement, then read Talk:Nadine Coyle#Nadine Coyle is Irish. O Fenian (talk) 20:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

O'Fenian, The source http://www.hotpress.com/archive/4321155.html does not prove that she is Irish, only that she is proud of her Irish roots. Stop edit warring and please provide a relevant source.Afterlife10 (talk) 20:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Pay the money to read the full article, just because you will not pay does not make it unreliable. I even provided you the exact quote. O Fenian (talk) 20:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I think your missing the point, O_Fenian, so ill help you again to see the bigger picture. Here is the opening line of the Wikipedia WP Wikipedia ( /ˌwɪkɪˈpiːdi.ə/ or /ˌwɪkiˈpiːdi.ə/ WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə) is a free, web-based, collaborative, multilingual encyclopedia project supported by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. Therefore the information on the website should be free and that includes its references. So try and find a source that is free to view.Afterlife10 (talk) 20:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Free does not refer to sources, but to article content. O Fenian (talk) 20:52, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

A source was provided at the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents:

• "“I’m not into that whole LA approach to fitness. I keep telling people, I’m more European in my attitude. I’m Irish for God’s sake, we don’t work out!”"[1]

JoeSperrazza (talk) 22:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

The last time I checked, Northern Ireland was within the United Kingdom. Therefore she's British. GoodDay (talk) 18:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I live in Northern Ireland, last thing time I checked I was Irish not British, you have shown your true colours now GoodDay, you always tried to claim you were impartial, now you know you have been lying the whole time.Sheodred (talk) 09:56, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

You're British. GoodDay (talk) 13:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

last time i checked NI is part of the UK and someone from the UK is British she can identify as a martian for all i care she is still legally British as per the British Nationality act 1981 2A02:C7C:4098:D700:E5D5:66FF:162D:7A52 (talk) 02:16, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Legally, yes. Here, however, we have guidelines such as this, and if she self-identifies as Irish rather than British, that's what we should use. It depends upon the available sources, but the one immediately above seems to clinch the deal as far as that guideline goes. Hengist Pod (talk) 21:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

@ JoeSperrazza - that quote is insufficient as many people to themselves as "Irish" as in from the island, not the state.

@ Hengist Pod - this is not a guideline or policy, please read the opening comments at the top of that article. It has no enforcement.

Nadine Coyle as far as i'm aware self-identifies as Irish as she is quoted as identifying with the Irish Tricolour when discussing the Union Flag's used for a Girls Aloud album several years ago and she also moved to Donegal before heading to the USA. So by identifying with the flag of the Republic of Ireland, we can assume she's on about Irish the state not the island. Mabuska ^(talk) 11:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

As the lede says she's Irish, and she self-identifies as Irish, isn't it appropriate for her to be in the category of Irish singers? JoeSperrazza (talk) 15:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Given that the article is in Category:Female singers from Northern Ireland, whose members are automatically included in Category:Irish female singers, there's no reason for the article to include Category:Irish female singers. See [2] for a fuller explanation. JoeSperrazza (talk) 17:29, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

It's not directly appropriate to be in category:Irish female singers, since she is already in the more specific Female singers from Northern Ireland category, and that category is a subcategory of Irish female singers. So the article is already in that category, just filed at a more granular level. Canterbury Tail talk 12:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Thank you for stating it more clearly than I did, above! JoeSperrazza (talk) 15:51, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Website

Nadines website is gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.107.90.159 (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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Canada?????

Just wondering what that last category change that was made is about, whoever said Nadine is in Canada? 189.78.18.246 (talk) 04:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2015

Please change the release year of "Sweetest High" (instead of 2013 it should be 2011) here's the iTunes link for a source: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sweetest-high-single/id445652111 189.78.18.246 (talk) 04:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Done  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  05:28, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Expatriates from Northern Ireland in Canada?

Exactly how is she expatriate in Canada? "Personal life" section tells she lives in California, so shouldn't it be in United States? Unless there is a good reason for that. 85.217.20.78 (talk) 02:52, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2017

Nadine's wikipedia page needs an updated picture. This picture is from 2004! Youngjack582 (talk) 17:56, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Nihlus 18:10, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2018

Please revert this edit per the cited source and Talk:Nadine Coyle#Nadine Coyle is Irish and Talk:Nadine Coyle#Irish. 2A02:C7D:3CAF:D900:FC0C:4A7E:45C8:C518 (talk) 11:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:00, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2019

Please revert this change. The source provided clearly states "When people say Girls Aloud are a British band and I’m there, I will explain that we are four British and one Irish". This has been discussed at Talk:Nadine Coyle#Nadine Coyle is Irish and Talk:Nadine Coyle#Irish, and has been the stable version for approximately eight years consensus would be needed for the change that has been made since . 2A02:C7D:3C72:D200:C504:5C02:52FB:7683 (talk) 15:01, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done Moab12 (talk) 10:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Request has been implemented. Closing. NiciVampireHeart 22:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Nadine Coyle remains Irish

Previously discussed at #Nadine Coyle is Irish and #Irish. The Good Friday Agreement states "recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish [my emphasis] or British, or both, as they may so choose". The sentence concludes regarding citizenship, what it doesn't say is "but if the Fenians get all uppity and decide they are Irish, then be sure to describe them as Northern Irish". I have restored the consensus version, it is up to those seeking a change to gain consensus for their proposal. Moab12 (talk) 18:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I see there has now been an attempt to claim she is British. The source says "I will explain that we are four British and one Irish", is there something difficult to understand about this? I have again restored the consensus version. Moab12 (talk) 19:48, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Nationality

People on this page must be seriously uneducated, the good Friday agreement means she can identify Irish or British, but she was born in the United Kingdom and is therefore a BRITISH CITIZEN. Her nationality is British, but Nadine identifies as Irish. But she is a British Citizen, please respect this. (Airline7375 (talk) 11:37, 8 December 2019 (UTC))

Previously discussed at #Nadine Coyle is Irish and #Irish and #Nadine Coyle remains Irish.

I see lots of unsourced speculation, but no reliable sources confirming Nadine Coyle is a British citizen at the present time. The source we do have says "I will explain that we are four British and one Irish", what is the obsession with labelling a person British against their will and without reliable sources? Moab12 (talk) 12:11, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I see you use your political views on Wikipedia which is not allowed. If you are born in Northern Ireland you are British. Educate yourself man. As much as you who may be Irish don’t like, NI belongs to the U.K. (Airline7375 (talk) 14:46, 8 December 2019 (UTC))

Please don't edit war, Airline7375. Please see WP:IMOS, WP:LONDONDERRY, and the consensus established by previous discussions on this page. Don't remove cited material, and by all means include additional material if it's reliably sourced. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 18:09, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

As @Bastun: says, please stop edit warring against consensus. As I pointed out in the section above, the Good Friday Agreement reads "recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish [my emphasis] or British, or both, as they may so choose". The sentence concludes regarding citizenship, what it doesn't say is "but if the Fenians get all uppity and decide they are Irish, then be sure to describe them as Northern Irish". If you disagree with the consensus, I suggest you follow the options at dispute resolution. Moab12 (talk) 10:04, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

rte.ie/tv/scannal/nadine.html

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2021

It says ( born - Londonderry) on the main google page before you click on the Wikipedia page which says the right thing ( born - Derry ). Please change birthplace back to Derry on main google search page for Nadine Coyle. Thank you 78.18.125.45 (talk) 20:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: We have no control over Google's search results or what it displays. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:22, 19 October 2021 (UTC)