Talk:Naʼvi language/Archive 3
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Why??
Why is this artlang even notable?? Beyond the fact that it is physiologically impossible to linguistically produce sounds made in the movie with such a biological structure, I just don't see its credibility. It is utter nonsense. Please remove. 24.124.56.67 (talk) 06:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Huh? Impossible to do what with which structure? — kwami (talk) 07:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed; is the IP saying it's not possible for a human to reproduce those sounds, or that the word structure is not possible to reproduce phonetically? Either way, that's obviously incorrect. — Huntster (t @ c) 09:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- (Cool, text-shadow). This kind of language is notable similarly to the way other human constructions such as games or hoaxes are; concerning artlangs, it is unique e.g. in it's aspiration for "naturalness", that's notable. Dan ☺ 17:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- No, not really. It's notable for having received significant coverage in reliable sources; please see WP:Notability. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- (Cool, text-shadow). This kind of language is notable similarly to the way other human constructions such as games or hoaxes are; concerning artlangs, it is unique e.g. in it's aspiration for "naturalness", that's notable. Dan ☺ 17:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed; is the IP saying it's not possible for a human to reproduce those sounds, or that the word structure is not possible to reproduce phonetically? Either way, that's obviously incorrect. — Huntster (t @ c) 09:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
It's been nearly a year now since the thing took off; are new learners still flocking to the "Learn Na'vi" website and groups on Facebook, etc? Has Frommer published anything? A dictionary, reference grammar, etc? (Or is he too busy with Martian now?) What's the state of the art one year on?
(I agree, btw, that the language is notable enough for an article here, if only for having brought conlanging to even wider public attention. But I'm curious as to whether the numbers support it being anything more than another passing fad... ???) --SandChigger (talk) 08:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Frommer has a blog concerning Na'vi that he updates regularly. Additionally, Frommer met with several LearnNavi.org members, including one of the editors of this page, WmAnnis and the principal lexicographer of the Na'vi language, Richard Littauer, in Northern California back in October. Audio and video of the workshop can be found at LearnNavi's forums here. Also, in the year since Na'vi was introduced, two new learning systems, Project NgayNume and the Neytiri Project have been developed to help newcomers learn the language in a more interactive setting. It could be argued that the zeitgeist it enjoyed in the early portion of 2010 is winding down; however there still remains a large handful of people who are dedicated to learning the language. --Kyle Kepone (talk)
Removal of grammar sections
So it's been over a year now, and it looks like we've got significant opposition to the amount of detail given to the language's rules on the grounds. I'm going to work on consensing such material into a single "Structure and usage" section which gives an overview without going into anywhere near the detail of the current revision and move the Wikibooks link into it. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 13:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've (finally) made a start to this. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 13:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Further Reading
The link for the Chris Ayres article under further reading takes you to the main page of The Times' website. Searching will reveal the article is archived on the site but clicking on it just takes you back to the main page. Perhaps it is different if you are paying for access to The Times archives, but should this be included as a link when it seems to only be accessible if you are willing to pay for it?500Afs (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
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Serious omission in the article
The article states there are no words for "a", "an" or "the", but what about an equivalent for the English endings -(e)s, -ing or -ed? Is there an equivalent for that? --Fandelasketchup (talk) 18:39, 17 April 2020 (UTC)