Talk:NF

Requested move 1 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) MaterialWorks (contribs) 23:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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• NF → NF (disambiguation)
• NF (rapper) → NF

– It seems clear to me that the rapper is the primary topic (WP:PRITOP) for this article title. See [1].  – CityUrbanism 🗩 🖉 14:40, 1 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. The guidelines on WP:NC#Avoid ambiguous abbreviations and MOS:ACROTITLE state that acronyms by themselves in article titles should be avoided unless the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject. Given the existence of the multiple listings on NF, I do not believe that is the case. Especially when I look at some of the pageviews: yes NF (rapper) may get more raw views per day, but the figures are not that convincing to me to comply with the WP:PRITOP guideline with respect to usage that says that it should be highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. NF (rapper) may get about 3,273/day, but Newfoundland and Labrador still gets 2,446/day, and Necrotizing fasciitis 1,365/day.[2] And as for WP:PRITOP with respect to long-term significance, the rapper has only been active since 2010, and there is no evidence I have seen yet that he is well known in numerous countries outside the United States (given the numerous blank cells in the "Peak chart positions" columns in the Discography tables). Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Deadlock over the evidence. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. Leads in pageviews perhaps, but there are many other things named "NF". No primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 03:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. The nominator links to the Wikinav data [3], which shows that the link to the rapper on the dab page NF got 837 clicks in March. To put that in context, the dab page received a total of 1366 views in the same month [4]. This means that 61% of visitors wanted the rapper; this may be enough to meet some people's threshold for a primary topic wrt to usage (though not mine). But if you take into account that there's currently a spike in interest in the rapper [5] (likely due to a recent release), those percentages would probably get halved (the article got more than twice as many daily views in March compared to last year). – Uanfala (talk) 16:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per the long-term significance of the other uses. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. Per guidelines on WP:NC#Avoid ambiguous abbreviations and MOS:ACROTITLE and WP:RECENT. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• I think the mass views for NF have to be substantially more tilted in favor of a single topic to justify short-circuiting. This case does not really meet the standard of having to be more likely to be sought than all the other topics combined (WP:PTOPIC). A more coherent argument would need to be presented instead. --Joy (talk) 19:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose and snow close. That a modestly successful entertainer would get primary topic for a two-letter abbreviation seems unlikely a priori. We can predict confidently (if regrettably) that neurofibromatosis and necrotizing fascitis will still be of interest ten years from now. --Trovatore (talk) 15:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.