Talk:N. F. S. Grundtvig

Correct good faith edits

I do a lot of editing on this page, but I am a non-native speaker. Please correct my blunderers. user: Auken

Retitled

This page ought to be retitled. Nobody called Grundtvig Nicolai. The correct naming is "N.F.S. Grundtvig". But I don't know how to do that. Please help.

Very nice of you to move it Peregrine, thank you. But there is, as you can see, still a major typo in the title of the page. Best wishes

The recent move

I will try to clean up the mess.... -- Egil 20:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful, thank you. Now we just have to make the damn thing better. The German article is far superior to this one. What a shame.

One question: Should the first name be "Nikolai", with a 'k'? -- Egil 17:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Shame on me: Yes it should. And with a "j" in the end.

I attempted a move by myself. Did I do it right?

Legacy

Should more be said about the influence of NFS G on Danish Lutherans in America? I am thinking in particular of his son's (FL Grundtvig) position in the DELCA and the influence then of the DELCA within the Lutheran Church in America. --Pastordavid 20:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No references tag

Today, I removed the "noreference" tag from December 2007. There seems to be adequate references with inline citations. If other editors disagree, please discuss the specific missing or incorrect references below. Pknkly (talk) 20:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Suggested move

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Nikolaj Frederik Severin Grundtvig → N.F.S. Grundtvig – As stated in the article, he is best known in this form. There seems to have been some complicated moving of the article to various versions of his name in 2006 - see page history and talk page - but a Danish editor has recently agreed that the form with initials would be the better article title. This replaces my previous misspelled move proposal: apologies! PamD 20:58, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Survey

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• Support. Not just a Danish preference, Britannica also favors this title. Favonian (talk) 22:49, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
• support clearly the common name.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:07, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
• Support - clearly in line with wikipedia policy to use most common usage, even if less "correct" from a technical point of view. Peregrine981 (talk) 08:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
• Support - per Danish Culture Canon and English sources; either N. F. S. Grundtvig or N.F.S. Grundtvig ...would prefer if there was a MOS standard for this. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:43, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

• I note that the page has been moved, during the discussion, to a version with (a) spaces between the initials, which I had opted against on the basis of the various citations and the form used in Danish Wikipedia, and (b) the surname wrongly spelled! PamD 23:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed.[Well I thought I'd fixed it but I only moved the talkpage!]·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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Holocaust

Never heard of him before today, but the article on the Jews in WWII Denmark credits this guy's theology with helping inspire their survival. Should this be added? I'm not fit to do it because I know nothing about him.

"Since the mid-19th century, a particular brand of romantic nationalism had evolved in Denmark. The traits of this nationalism included emphasis on the importance of "smallness", close-knit communities, and traditions—this nationalism being largely a response to Denmark's failure to assert itself as a great power and its losses in the Gunboat War and the Second War of Schleswig. Some historians, such as Leni Yahil (The Rescue of Danish Jewry: Test of a Democracy, 1969), believe that the Danish form of non-aggressive nationalism, influenced by Danish spiritual leader N. F. S. Grundtvig, encouraged the Danes to identify with the plight of the Jews, even though small-scale anti-Semitism had been present in Denmark long before the German invasion.[40]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_the_Danish_Jews — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tabbycatlove (talk • contribs) 14:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)