Talk:Nâzım Hikmet

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Musicsoph in topic Poems

Poems edit

Pete Seeger set a translation by Jeanette Turner of one of Nazim Hikmet's poems to a melody by James Walters. I refer you to Seeger's notes about "I Come And Stand At Every Door (Girl of Hiroshima)" in his book, Where Have All The Flowers Gone: A Musical Autobiography (1997) Sing Out Corporation ISBN 1-881322-10-6 Musicsoph (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Images edit

There are two images of Nazım Hikmet on wikipedia, two pictures on the Turkish [1] and German [2] wikis and a self-portrait on the Turkish wiki [3]. I am not sure of the legal status of these, but I guess if the very legalist German-speaking people put it, it's OK. --Pylambert 20:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Imprisonment edit

The article should mention the 12 years and 7 months he spent in various prisons in Istanbul, Cankiri and Bursa for the charges of spreading communist propaganda within the armed forces and inciting armed personnel to mutiny (his initial sentence handed down in 1938 was 28 years and 7 months). Also that his Turkish citizenship was revoked on July 25 1951.


Where can we verify this? I don't disagree with you but it needs to have a cited source VoltageX 06:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


According to the ROMANTİK KOMÜNİST by Saime Göksu & Edward Timms (Doğan Kitap, 2001, ISBN 975-6612-47-9) page 31, Nazım Hikmet's mother Celile Hanım was also a talented artist, which attracted enthusiasm from some innovative intellectuals of her period both due to her painting talent and her refusal to act in traditional ways - such as refusing to wear veil - Celile Hanım's character gave inspiration to biographic novel YORGUN MAYIS KISRAKLARI (can be translated as Jaded Mares of May) by Yılmaz Karakoyunlu, (Doğan Kitap, 2004, ISBN: 978-975-293 232-6), which consists of three biographies: Nazım Hikmet, Yahya Kemal Beyatlı, and Adnan Menderes. Both in Yorgun Mayıs Kısrakları and in Romantic Communist Celile Hanım's and Nazım Hikmet's painting talents are many times mentioned. According to Romantic Communist: Nazım made lots of works in his imprisonment years. A famous self-portrait of Nazım Hikmet Ran can be found at the following link: [4] Beside all, Nazım Hikmet established his famous friendhsip with Turkish painter Abidin Dino in prisons. This is a popularly known fact due to popularity of Nazım's lines: Sen mutluluğun resmini yapabilir misin, Abidin? So, why it was not mentioned that Nazım Hikmet was also a painter? It should be included in the article. --Nazimarda - Talk 19:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

This article needs much work. His life was much richer than indicated, some good, mostly dramatic. His politics, troubles with Turkish governments, his marriages, love life, international organizations he contrubuted to, lectures and travels need to be included. There are tons of books and articles on these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.156.90 (talk) 11:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Kerem gibi edit

I've recently read the poem (original:[5]) in my native language and was looking for translations into Western European languages (on the internet). I only managed to find a German excerpt ([6]), could someone cite the English version? And also, who exactly was this Kerem whom the author celebrates? According to annotator of my native language edition, Kerem was a national hero (of Turkish-Tatarian people) who was burnt to death. I couldn't find anything about Kerem on the net.--Constanz - Talk 13:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Kerem ile Aslı (Kerem and Aslı) is one of the most famous legendary and anonymous love story in Turkish (Like Romeo & Juliet or Tristian & Isault in English). In story, Kerem is a Turkish Muslim and Aslı is an Armenian (Also Aslı's Father is an orthodox priest). Because of religional difference, their love was imposible. As a result, father of the Aslı bring her daughter far away to seperate Kerem and Aslı. And Kerem started to search Aslı everywhere as a poor poet after abandoning all of his richness. At last he found her, and succedded in marrying her. But Aslı's father make a magic to seperate again. When the first day of their marriage, Kerem was magically burnt (When trying to open Aslı's shirt). And Aslı also burnt when trying to touch of Kerem's ashes. Generally this love mith is the the symbol of burnt for love. --CeyhunC 20:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks a lot! --Constanz - Talk 12:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Religion edit

What about his religion? --92.113.4.163 (talk) 13:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Atheist he was as far as I know. Kasaalan (talk) 20:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Recent developments edit

There are extensive discussions in Turkish Parliament about restoring his citizenship and moving his tomb back to Turkey from Russia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.156.90 (talk) 11:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Poems edit

Not that I don't love the poetry, but isn't it subject to copyright? - 70.71.242.83 (talk) 05:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ultra Bra edit

https://musicbrainz.org/artist/e1884684-e319-4c34-b7b2-a6855ae6b0d1/works

http://juhasiro.fi/blogi/?p=4900 Kaihsu (talk) 11:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

pronunciation edit

The IPA pronunciation was given as [naːˈzɯm hicˈmet]. I've corrected it to [ˈnaːzɯm ˈhikmɛt] after listening to the sound file on Commons, plus three on Forvo whose speakers are all described as Turkish. All four use the pronunciation I've substituted (the Forvo speakers include his surname, "Ran"), which is quite distinct from the one I've replaced. --Thnidu (talk) 02:52, 7 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Removal of sourced content edit

@Tarik289:, can you provide an explanation for persistently removing sourced content, namely news articles from 1955, and not 1965 - Kevo327 (talk) 23:22, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kevo327:, I will ask to you only one thing and as a person who deffinetly sided you want to ban me and after this question you will probably gonna do it. Can we write 'low race' to Jew article with Nazi newspaper record from 1933. If answer is no, i will gonna revert back to non sided status. If answer is yes, see a doctor. Have a good morning, good afternoon, good evening or good night.

@Tarik289: your argument, besides being rude, is nonsensical. The source being Greek or Greek Cypriot doesn't not make it "unacceptable" just for that, if you have any other reasons please write them in clear and understandable English. - Kevo327 (talk) 09:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Nonsensical? Dude source is literally propaganda newspaper from conflict era are you really serious? And i didn't said anything personal sorry if it seems rude then. Tarik289 (talk) 10:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Tarik289: do you have any proof that it is propaganda? And that Nâzım Hikmet didn't actually have that position? Especially that the 'conflict' you mention is one that wanted Independence from Britain and that Nâzım Hikmet could easily refute such an article as he was still alive and well in 1955. Your notion that "He is a Turk and could never have supported them" has no merit, It's just your opinion that is disproved by the sources in the article. - Kevo327 (talk) 12:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kevo327: You distort what I say and i didn't said he did not say Cyprus must be independence from Britain but i am sure that he didn't said 'Cyprus is Greek land' unlike propaganda newspaper. Don't you think it's obvious that this will be said by a greek?
@Tarik289: nowhere in the article or in the paragraph that we are discussing about does it say that "Cyprus is Greek Land" and the newpaper article is about Nâzım Hikmet calling Turkish Cypriots to support EOKA against Britain. And Nâzım Hikmet was exile from Turkey, so it's natural that wouldn't support Turkish claims anyway. - Kevo327 (talk) 13:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

"Ran sent a message to the Turks of Cyprus emphasizing that Cyprus was always Greek." I am not blind and i know how to read, its from your source dude. And stop reverting my contributions. Tarik289 (talk) 14:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

We know he said Turks and Greeks of Cyprus must work together against British occupation but not like this. And you cannot find anything like this sentences in anywhere. Tarik289 (talk) 14:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

This discussion clearly isn't going anywhere. - Kevo327 (talk) 15:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply