Talk:My Kind of Christmas/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 21:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

• I'll review this article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:LEAD

• A lot of content was added to the LEAD that is not cited in the main body. Make sure each fact in the LEAD is cited in the main body.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:58, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Done — Simon (talk) 02:07, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• Given how short this article is and how common it seems for producers to be mentioned in LEADs, wouldn't it be better to keep the producer additions and then find WP:RS for WP:ICs to add that content to the body in prose. There may even be stories about production that come out when seeking the citations.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:49, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

• I've added the producers in the lead yet still can't seek for anything about the production — Simon (talk) 10:27, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

• In order for this article to pass, we are going to need the prose of the main body to discuss production. WP:RS for WP:ICs required.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:41, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Background and composition

• This section seems noticably short.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Who produced this album? --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done There is already a section named "Credits and personnel" which lists all of the albums' producers — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• • What was the name and location of the production studio?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Done I've added names of recording studios — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• What made her decide to produce a Christmas album?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done None of the sources have this information, only let us know that she released the album following her Spanish album — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• I think "However the idea was later canceled, and Dr. John was replaced afterwards." is a misstatement. I think "replaced" should be "chosen as her replacement"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Done — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• When were the original tracks written?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

• They're mostly cover versions of Christmas standards — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Yes but several are original.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry, but I've found as much sources as possible and none of them have the information

• By whom?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:50, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done There is already the "Track listing" section — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Reception

• Did the album sell outside of North America. The table below suggests so, but the prose does not confirm this.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:08, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done Hmm, I've found as much sources as possible but none of them have the information — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Images

• The main image has a proper FUR.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
• The image of Dr. John is PD.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
• The WP:CAPTION for the Dr. John image should clarify that is a picture of him 11 years later. I.e., change pictured to pictured in 2011.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Done — Simon (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Do we have any pictures of Aguilera from this time period.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:13, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done Sadly we don't have any of them — Simon (talk) 10:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• I will put this article on hold, but will likely FAIL it if most of the questions can not be answered.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:14, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you for the review, I'll try to finish all of them within a week if possible — Simon (talk) 10:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

MOS review

• This is a very borderline nominee, IMO. I am taking a closer look at WP:MOS-ALBUM.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:31, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
• Add My Kind of Christmas Tour to the hatnote.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

•  Done

• WP:LEAD should mention artist's genre.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

• The album's genre or Aguilera's genre? — Simon (talk) 04:26, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• I am just following Wikipedia:MOS-ALBUM. Follow that.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:36, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

•  Done — Simon (talk) 06:21, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

• Beef up her background. Even though she had just broken out the year before, you should note that she had recently been named Grammy New Artist of the Year and had recently gone gold, platinum and multiplatinum.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

•  Done

• Also, the singles chronology probably is a bit confusing. I think the only single from this album was released before singles from both of her prior albums. Please explain this.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I have removed the information (the single was released individually, not from the album)
    • That does not seem right to me. Many singles are included in album singles chronologies that were released long before an album was confirmed or even planned. Why don't you just explain things to the reader.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
      • Well the book source given only says that "The Christmas Song" was released as a single in 1999, it is unclear that the single was released from the album or independently — Simon (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
• Can we say anything about the producer? What he is known for? etc.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • No sources given
• Why don't we know the writer of the third original composition. It is over a minute and a half. Although described as an interlude maybe there is some content to be found.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:02, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • No sources given
• Reformat personnel as a bulleted list of names and forms of participation, with spaced en dashes between the two.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I have not imagined how would it look? — Simon (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
• Why did the album chart in 2013 in Korea?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Hard to explain, because the Korean Gaon chart is a new chart established in 2010, and My Kind of Christmas is a Christmas album, so it sales more during the vacation and thus it appeared on the chart, I guess — Simon (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
• Is there enough information for a release dates table?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm afraid not — Simon (talk) 10:35, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
• Are there subcats of Category:Albums by recording location that are relevant?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Uhm, I have do researches and there are no relevant ones — Simon (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• • Today, I left the nominator a reminder to respond to these final concerns or the review will be closed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

• •  Doing... I'm currently busy with other works for WP:XTINA so please bear with me for a few days — Simon (talk) 04:51, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

• • Keep in mind that this is part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/December 2013/Totals. I am suppose to close this review one way or the other by the 31st.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:00, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

• Acutally, you don't have to close it. If there is good progress being made in the nomination, does it really make a difference to sacrifce one point towards the drive? I think I may modify this rule in the next drive...--Dom497 (talk) 11:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Closure: Looking at the article's history, I see that it hasn't been edited in the last 12 days. The majority of the issues are not addressed, and I don't think they will be corrected in near future. The list of articles waiting for review is overbooked, so I don't see a rational reason for leaving the nomination open any more. I'm closing it as unsuccessful.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 20:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC)