Talk:Music of Armenia/Archive 1

Archive 1

Article removed from Wikipedia:Good articles

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I just wonder where did anyone get that stupid photo that is now present in so many Armenian topics. It's a very ugly photo of probably some drunk village musicians playing to get their daily vodka money, and Armenian music is much more than that. Consider putting a photo of Komitas, of Khachaturian, of Meschian after all, but not of some unknown villagers with red faces...

I totally agree with the statement. A photo of Komitas Vardapet, the founder of modern Armenian music, would be most appropriate.

The sentence which specified Fresno, California as the only Armenian community where Armenian music is still very much alive is not charitable to communities of Armenians worldwide. Armenian music is revered in Armenian communities worldwide. Noki, in response to the deletion of the inappropriate sentence.

It specifically says the exact opposite of what you claim. "Armenian immigrant communities have maintained their folk traditions". Nowhere does it claim or imply that Fresno is the only place Armenian music is alive. I will insert a footnote specifically citing the "especially Fresno" bit. Tuf-Kat 06:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah such a nice article! I just read a part of it in which Raisa Mkrtchian Bella Darbinian Tatevik are in the same raw with Emmy and Aida Sargsyan or whoever. After that I went to bathroom to throw up. Isn't it really disgusting? I am going to kick the names of these idiots from that sentence. They have a long long way to go to be there. Armenian_NY

Kim Kashkashian

Kim Kashkashian, a violist and professor of viola at New England Conservatory, is of Armenian descent. She recorded the music of Tigran Mansurian and Komitas in 2003, along with Tigran Mansurian on piano and Robyn Schulkowsky on percussion. I think she outght to be mentioned.Dpafundi 22:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

What about Paul and Harout???

Yes this article is indeed missing a lot of important points... but what I found especially strange is that neither Paul Baghdadlian nor Harout Pamboukjian are mentioned, and yet, despite being totally pop music & not intellectual in any way, they are two out of three most popular singers of music sung in the Armenian language (the third being Adiss Harmandyan, who is mentioned) Every year, since the 1970s (the 1960s in Adiss' case) and still going, thousands of Armenians (even mixed families) celebrate their weddings, their engagements, their children's baptisms and all other types of private or cultural community events singing & dancing along to Paul Baghdadlian's classic renditions of "Harsntsou", "Sev Acher", "Hye Aghchig", and Harout Pamboukjian's "Ha Nina", "Zokanch", etc. Either by playing the CDs or having them performed by bands that would never get a single gig if they weren't familiar with that repertoire. It seems to me like the person who wrote this article simply did a short internet research on the subject of Armenian music, and indeed ended up very short on information, due to the lack of information there is about Armenian music available online. I don't believe they have often (if ever) been to events where Armenian music is played. They are certainly not familiar with the role Armenian music plays for actual real-life communities and admirers of Armenian music. We need more real information about Armenian music online. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.80.187.216 (talk) 08:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

Move

Propose move this article to "Armenian Music" as to include music made not only in Armenia country but by Armenians nation. Any objections? Steelmate (talk) 05:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Please discard as for that we need another article. Steelmate (talk) 06:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia lacks information on armenian-inspired movie and tv soundtracks

Something should be done in this field. I have created a page on this subject, called List of Armenian-Inspired Soundtracks. It was asked for deletion. According to some administrators, completely ignorant of anything related to armenian music, there would be no proof that these soundtracks, using the armenian duduk instrument (in the heritage list of UNESCO), are influenced by armenian music. They disagree that duduk is part of armenian music. It's the same as the vandalism on the Duduk page denying the armenian origin of the Duduk instrument and ignoring the works of international organization UNESCO. PauperHell (talk) 20:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

System of a Down

Granted, System of a Down don't play a whole lot of Armenian music. BUT, all four of the members are Armenian, and a lot of their songs are about the Armenian Genocide. One song in particular, Arto, which can be heard as a hidden track at the end of "Aerials", demonstrates their heritage. Are they worth mention? Speighticus (talk) 01:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

References ?

This article has a large number of footnotes, but hardly any references listed. Most footnotes appear to me as if they should go to the references section. Agree ? Joriswu (talk) 20:19, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Change the title

I propose changing the title to "Armenian music" to be able to mention Armenians outside Armenia too, as there are more Armenians outside than inside Armenia. What do you think? --Vitilsky (talk) 02:35, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't oppose, but "Music of X" is already accepted on Wikipedia (see here). I totally understand what you mean, but I think "Music of Armenia" doesn't exactly mean "Music of the Republic of Armenia", meaning it's not just limited to music of the modern political entity called Armenia, but it also includes all musicians that are Armenian/of Armenian origin. --Երևանցի ^talk 03:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Yes this article is indeed missing a lot of important points... but what I found especially strange is that neither Paul Baghdadlian nor Harout Pamboukjian are mentioned, and yet, despite being totally pop music & not intellectual in any way, they are two out of three most popular singers of music sung in the Armenian language (the third being Adiss Harmandyan, who is mentioned) Every year, since the 1970s (the 1960s in Adiss' case) and still going, thousands of Armenians (even mixed families) celebrate their weddings, their engagements, their children's baptisms and all other types of private or cultural community events singing & dancing along to Paul Baghdadlian's classic renditions of "Harsntsou", "Sev Acher", "Hye Aghchig", and Harout Pamboukjian's "Ha Nina", "Zokanch", etc. Either by playing the CDs or having them performed by bands that would never get a single gig if they weren't familiar with that repertoire. It seems to me like the person who wrote this article simply did a short internet research on the subject of Armenian music, and indeed ended up very short on information, due to the lack of information there is about Armenian music available online. I don't believe they have often (if ever) been to events where Armenian music is played. They are certainly not familiar with the role Armenian music plays for actual real-life communities and admirers of Armenian music. We need more real information about Armenian music online.

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Scope of article

Is the scope of this article limited to the "Music of Armenia" the country? What is the right article to expand content about music in the Armenian diaspora? Seraphim System ^(talk) 19:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Lede sentence

The current lede sentence The music of Armenia has its origins in the Armenian Highlands, where people traditionally sang popular folk songs. needs to be rewritten. The article covers a broad range of Armenian musicians including musicians like Arpine Pehlivanian who was a soprano singer - she sang Mozart and Vivaldi. Vivaldi had a number of "sacred" choral works, but I don't think they originated from the folk music of the Armenian highlands. Seraphim System ^(talk) 22:49, 21 November 2018 (UTC)