Talk:Mt. Pleasant Middle School

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Rainbow unicorn in topic Notability of this school

Notability of this school edit

The article has been recently changed to a redirect page on the basis of being a non-notable school as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. When reviewing that essay (not a guideline), it suggests that the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) notability guideline should be followed, and only if the middle-school is not notable, then it should get merged or redirected. Therefore, the only question here is whether this school is notable as per WP:ORG guideline. As per WP:NSCHOOL contains in that guideline, we can either use general notability guideline or the guideline contained in WP:ORG, or both. This article uses the WP:ORG to establish notability. In the WP:ORG we can either use the primary criteria or alternate criteria. In this case, we use the alternate criteria which the school has to satisfy both:

  1. The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
  2. Information about the organization and its activities can be verified by multiple, third-party, independent, reliable sources.

When considering the scale, the consideration should be given to "the organization’s longevity, size of membership, major achievements, prominent scandals, or other factors specific to the organization." Those are some of factors that can help demonstrate whether the scope of school activities is national.

Below are the references that can be used to confirm that this school meet both #1 and #2. Each of which uses the major achievement at national scale as the justification to meet #1, and the references are from independent and reliable sources.

  • The Knowledge Master Open lists the school in its Hall of Fame [1]
  • AMC-8 perfect score for 2001 by Mathematical Association of America [2]
  • National winner of poster contest by National Association of Conservation Districts [3]

Please discuss if the above items don't establish notability of this school.

They don't establish notability.
[4] - this particular hall of fame list does not seem to be notable, and also "inclusion in lists of similar organizations" further disqualifies it according to WP:ORGDEPTH
[5] - page is no longer up and is not archived [6], but judging by the link, it appears to be a list, also an organization confirming their winners or perfect scores does establish notability
[7] - has since been updated, but as an organization confirming their winners, again, does not establish notability
Other sources in the article are either local, non-independent, or otherwise non-significant coverage. Rainbow unicorn (talk) 00:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply