Talk:Mrs Miggins

Latest comment: 11 years ago by DeNoel in topic questionable facts

Notability edit

This article has been repeatedly recreated and redirected. Essentially, the problem with the article is the question of notability. No subject is notable without significant coverage in independent reliable sources. This article does not have such coverage. Currently, the article lists several sources:

  • BBC-Comedy-Blackadder the Third - as a BBC source, this is clearly not an independent source
  • Blackadder Hall Blog » Blog Archive » A trip to Mrs Miggins' pie shop - as a blog, this is not a reliable source
  • HELEN ATKINSON-WOOD Mrs Miggins - Black Adder KYTV Tales from the... - this is not the book, but a site offering the book for sale, which is not a source of anything. If the cite was meant to be the book, we have a book by the actress who played the role, which is not an independent source.
  • Mrs. Miggins IMDB - IMDb is not a reliable source. Most material is user generated with minimal oversight. Some writing credits are reliable in IMDb and many editors will accept "actor played character" references from IMDb. In any event, there is certainly not a reliable source for significant coverage here.

I'll let this go for a few days with the tags. If independent reliable sources aren't added soon, I'll send it to AfD. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:01, 5 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

questionable facts edit

While watching the series on DVD, I came along this article, getting the impression it's (at least partly) written from memory by someone who isn't the Professor of Cunning at Oxford University. Not meaning to seriously offend anyone, several sentence structures are somewhat badly chosen or quoted inaccurately, while others are simply not true. Mrs. Miggins actually marrying MacAdder was never confirmed onscreen (in fact MacAdder seems convinced Migsy would lose the 'divorce duel' against his current wife) and she is almost certainly not the mother of Jamie and Angus. The statement that, in the fourth series she is a songwriter seems to be based simply on the fact that her name is mentioned in a song title. I'll probably give it a go in rewriting most of the article, although I'm not sure how to properly cite the actual series as a source, so forgive me if that's a little off. OmikronWeapon (talk) 10:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

  Done

Absolutely correct. I caught the error of Jamie and Angus, and have fixed this issue by deleting the inaccurate reference. I did not hear about Mrs. Miggins actually Marrying MacAngus, but only running off with him, and MacAngus did say that he looked forward to burying her, implying that he expects she'll loose the dual against his wife. As for Mrs. Miggins being a song writer, again, you are correct - other than her name being mentioned in a song title, which is likely pure coincidence in character, she is otherwise never referenced in the 4th series, and thus claiming she is a song writer would be an assumption, and an inaccurate one at that.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
I should also take the time to make note that I am not a fan of the "Back and Forth" episode, and so have not watched it with enough concentration to either dispute or affirm the instance of Mrs. Miggins in that episode. Thus, I will not apply changes to "Back and Forth" unless is it plainly obvious to me.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 15:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC)Reply