Talk:Moses da Rieti

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... that Moses da Rieti was the first Hebrew poet to write in the rhyming verse form of Dante?

Source: https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-319-02848-4_1113-1

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cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).Reply

Given that general readers may not know what "terza rima" is, a minor reword (perhaps changing the term to something more accessible) may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Seems fair, maybe we should add the phrase "rhyming verse form" afterwards? Andre🚐 01:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sure. Andre🚐 18:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

A drive-by comment: this has the perennial form of "first" hooks, that even though we may have sources calling them first, there's a high likelihood of WP:ERRORS when someone notices the hook and remembers the existence of someone else using terza rima in Hebrew at an earlier date, overlooked by our source. To forestall this, can we maybe rewrite the hook to avoid the word "first"? Something like
- ALT1 ... that Moses da Rieti wrote Hebrew poetry in the rhyming verse form of Dante?

—David Eppstein (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says Rieti was, in fact, the first Hebrew poet to use this form, and through his influence it was incorporated into Hebrew poetry by his successors. Andre🚐 00:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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