Talk:Moroccan Royal Guard

Latest comment: 6 months ago by R Prazeres in topic Unsourced claims and WP:OR

Claims re composition and history edit

The article makes claims that while no doubt current Moroccan "tradition" as it were, run against the historical record as laid out by professional Moroccan historians such as Ennaji. Reference should be added, and the current tradition should be noted as "claimed." collounsbury 12:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

Artillery edit

Does the guard still use the ancient M-40 GMC? If it does it must be for purely ceremonial purposes, which should be stated.Royalcourtier (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Black Guard edit

The article claims that the Black Guard corps was created by Youssef Ibn Tashfin of the Almoravid dynasty while in fact, it was created by Sultan Ismail if the Alaouite dynasty. Youssef Ibn Tashfin's personal guard corps was composed of Slavic and Ghanaian slaves, according to the following source:

دولة المرابطين في المغرب والأندلس عهد يوسف بن تاشفين أمير المرابطين صفحة 170-172 The Harwood Butcher (talk) 04:19, 26 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Unsourced claims and WP:OR edit

I've removed the completely unsourced and misattributed claims that the Royal Guard dates back to 1088 in the Almoravid period (see edit here). The sources cited in this article are about the Black Guard that was created by Moulay Ismail in the 17th/18th century, which the sources clearly explain. (Note: I replaced some of the former citations with more precise and reliable references from one of the same authors, which provide a more precise date for when this began.) This made-up claim was also being copied elsewhere (like at List of oldest military units and formations in continuous operation), again completely without support and contradicting what the cited sources actually say.

Moreover, there's no source either here or at the Black Guard article itself that even states any relation between the Black Guard ('Abid al-Bukhari) and the modern Royal Guard, so it's unclear that this is directly relevant in any way to this topic, other than perhaps as an example of former royal guards in Morocco. This point needs to be backed up or revised with reliable sources. R Prazeres (talk) 04:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply