Talk:Monkey patch

Objective-C

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__init__.py

I just removed the statement:

In Python a file named __init__.py must exist for a directory to become a Python package. Normally code is not placed in this file, and so provides the best place to hide code when waging war with guerilla patches.

For one, there are MANY examples in the python standard library where the __init.py__ file contains lots of code (e.g. the 'email', 'logging', 'encoding' packages, among many other). For two, monkey-patching can happen on any kind of object, regardless of whether it is part of a package (the only place __init__.py is relevant at all). The determination of *best place* is entirely subjective. And finally, if you're modifying the __init__.py, you're modifiying the package itself, which by definition is not monkey patching. William McVey (talk) 23:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

self-modifying code

Would it be relevant to have some kind of reference to self modifying code in this article. At least in the "See also" section? --Jarl (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

"Monkey Patch" & "Hot fix" not mutually exclusive

Article says "Other forms of modifying a class at runtime have different names, based on their different intents. For example, in Zope and Plone, security patches are often delivered using dynamic class modification, but they are called hot fixes.[citation needed]"

It seems to me that "Monkey Patch" and "hot fix" are not mutually exclusive. I believe it would be correct to say "we had to send out a hot fix [meaning the change was delivered on the fly, with a minimal (possibly zero) amount of down time] this morning. Bob figured out a way to do it as a Monkey Patch [meaning ...well... monkey patch! ;)]" Am I wrong about that? Oliepedia (talk) 14:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I was also immediately skeptical of this sentence for the same reason. The way I see it a monkey patch may indeed be delivered in a hotfix, but the concepts themselves don't have that much to do with each other. Okj579 (talk) 14:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Cutting down etymology

I'm cutting down the etymology explanation, particularly the part about "doing battle", because (a) it's tangential to the actual etymology, and (b) the etymology isn't well attested. I googled around for any other source to support that etymology, and all I could find were references to that same Shane Hathaway claim. There's no relevant information to be found searching for "guerrilla patch" or "gorilla patch" besides said direct references. I would expect, if this were a true etymology, that there would be some evidence of the earlier terms being used in context (maybe on a Zope mailing list?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merc64 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

http://www.jimmycuadra.com/posts/guerillapatch-an-interface-for-monkey-patching-objects-for-ruby-1-9-and-2-0 uses the phrase "guerilla patch", if anyone's interested. User:GKFX^talk 16:57, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I wondered if the term was related to 'code monkey' Gomez2002 (talk) 13:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Another possible etymology

The entry for monkey in Chambers 20th Century Dictionary (1983 Edition) includes an intransitive verb meaning "to meddle with anything, to fool". This would seem to be a less contrived etymology. It is similar to the term "greasemonkey" for a mechanic (someone who meddles with cars and consequently gets covered in grease).TristramBrelstaff (talk) 12:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Agree, it is definitely talked about in this sense in Ruby. You re-open the class and "monkey around with it" 24.22.48.80 (talk) 17:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

YAPE (Yet another possible etymology)

Could this be related to Greasemonkey the browser patching technology? That's been around long enough.

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Flagged issues

• does the 'original research' flag still apply?
  • there are references at the bottom
  • I personally use 'monkey patch' all over the place, as does at least one of my previous colleagues, and I have no affiliation with the authors of this article

Hughperkins (talk) 11:19, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

"Method swizzling"

Currently, Method swizzling redirects to Monkey patch but isn't mentioned there at all. Is it a synonym? Googling suggests that this term might be Objective-C/Swift-specific. – Tea2min (talk) 08:32, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Similarly, Duck punching, Dynamic Funk, and arguably Gorilla patch redirect here but aren't mentioned. 65.36.66.178 (talk) 16:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)